Okafor and Pettit placed into 2012 Free Agency Pool

[NetsGM]

In a way this sums it up well, Bods. You haven't won more than 1 title. There are 2 or 3 teams in each conference that feel they have a chance against you.

It's not that I feel I'm too dominant.  Even my ego isn't that big  

It's really something I was thinking about based on vibes from comments.  But it's really a decision I came upon when I made the "look at LeBron" thread.  

Here I joined a league where the commish was the 3 time defending champs.  He had just won 69 games.  He had LeBron, where he was an A- A A A C+ player.  3 straight league MVP's.

I immediately thought, "oh, how convenient".  Now I had no reason to think he cheated.  I had no proof.  I knew nothing of the GM.  Immediately suspicous.

You're going to have a hard time convincing me that it isn't good for the league to break my team up.  It's human nature.

[OldNuggetsGM]

Here's something no one's mentioned yet, that may be a bit of a compromise.  If you really are hellbent on blowing up your team, why not just lose one guy: Pettit or Okafor?  Losing them both is a both extreme.

[RaptorsGM]

The whole reason I built my young team is to come in and take a title after your run, Bods. My starters after Yao are 24, 25, 25, 21. Meaning I will be at my best in 3-4 years, when Boykins, Dunleavy and Battier will both be too old to contribute in the same way.

[GoldenStateGM]

Lol...  Hoenstly Bods, I have thought your teams window is only about another 2-3 years anyway...  With Boykins aging, as well as Dunleavy and Battier, the future could be tougher then you think.

Plus, if The Nuggets get the 1st pick, we are all doomed anyway...  

[ClippersGM-old]

I have yet to give my idea. I don't think Bods has to do this. I completely agree with many of the reasons stated above.

And if you would cheat... wouldn't you have won that 7 game Finals series against me?! It could have gone either way basically. And believe me... it feels sooooooooo good to be the Champion now! Knowing two things: 1. that I kept my team together for so long, believing they would finally get together and win the whole thing, which they did (ironically in a season where they had not such a good regular season as the ones before! meaning anything can happen in the playoffs) 2. we beat the Nets in a 7 game series!!! That is what made me go crazy instead of just happy!

Bods... I think that if you really want to do this... I think it would be very fair to say that Pettit unfortunately got in a car accident, has to recover, is out for lets say 2 seasons, then comes back at half strength (can you change his ratings?).... and Okafor retired because he had no more fun in basketball and is now a Philadelphia Eagle.

[KingsGM-old]

Well it would be great for Nets to break up his team. I would really love if the Pacers, Clippers, Warriors, Hornets, Mavs and any other better team do the same as well so i can be a champ! Wouldn't that be just greeeat??

[KingsGM-old]

I have yet to give my idea. I don't think Bods has to do this. I completely agree with many of the reasons stated above.

And if you would cheat... wouldn't you have won that 7 game Finals series against me?! It could have gone either way basically. And believe me... it feels sooooooooo good to be the Champion now! Knowing two things: 1. that I kept my team together for so long, believing they would finally get together and win the whole thing, which they did (ironically in a season where they had not such a good regular season as the ones before! meaning anything can happen in the playoffs) 2. we beat the Nets in a 7 game series!!! That is what made me go crazy instead of just happy!

Bods... I think that if you really want to do this... I think it would be very fair to say that Pettit unfortunately got in a car accident, has to recover, is out for lets say 2 seasons, then comes back at half strength (can you change his ratings?).... and Okafor retired because he had no more fun in basketball and is now a Philadelphia Eagle.

I wanted to ask him did he let you to win the finals so no one can be "suspicuos"...

[ClippersGM-old]

How about you just switch teams with someone. Let's say that you got fired by management cos you AGAIN (     ) lost a Finals series! (I am being a bit foolish since I just one my first ring!) And another team hires you as GM. So you can switch with someone. See if that other person has what it takes to run the Nets! He probably will the first couple seasons, cos cant do much wrong with em now. But after that he will have to show his skills as well.

[ClippersGM-old]

I wanted to ask him did he let you to win the finals so no one can be "suspicuos"...

Hahaha... could be. However I think those Clippers finally had to win it so I think it was all fair.

[NetsGM]

Of course not.  If I'm breaking up my team a winner, I obviously wanted to go out a winner.

[ClippersGM-old]

so how about the retirement and the car accident?

[PacersGM]

no the switch teams is not fair.
bods as you see there are many ways to beat your team wait till it is too old   or rebuild or simply make minor changes.

i agree to the nuggets and the clippers. you should not make both FAs. retire one or let his ratings drop or....
or try to win one more ring if you can  

[PacersGM]

Of course not.  If I'm breaking up my team a winner, I obviously wanted to go out a winner.

so wait till you are one. you proved nothing than a solid regular season.
for fun i built the perfekt team in FBB with players full of As and still i couldn´t win more than 70 games. FBB is crazy enough to keep everything in balance.

[ClippersGM-old]

no the switch teams is not fair.
bods as you see there are many ways to beat your team wait till it is too old   or rebuild or simply make minor changes.

i agree to the nuggets and the clippers. you should not make both FAs. retire one or let his ratings drop or....
or try to win one more ring if you can  

This I personally really like as an idea.    

So Pacers GM found out the real reason... Bods fears that he can not win rings with this team so he does this to cover everything up.












(I am just kidding... but maybe this is what Bods needs to go on... pressure )

[HornetsGM]

Like I said, I'll have a final decision tonight.

I strongly feel that this should be a group decision. There has not been much need in the past for voting, but if this isn't the kind of issue that calls for it, I don't know what is.

I feel that a fundamental issue about the league is at issue here: is this your league, or is it all of our league? By making the decision yourself, you are choosing the former. I believe this is not in the spirit of the league.
No one can argue that you have invested the most in the league, that is clear. However, the rest of us have invested a substantial amount of time in this league, and when we elected you as commissioner, we felt you would represent our interests in the league as well as your own.

If people believe you are cheating, even after you have expressed your desire to trash your team, let them vote for your proposal. No one is asking for an open vote. Those who vote for the proposal would be protected. Even those who vote for the proposal for their own personal gain and not the reasons you have given for the decision will be included.
I think that you will find that the overwhelming majority will vote against the proposal. I would even submit that we would need a 2/3 majority to defeat your proposal.

If the proposal is voted down, you will know that you have the support of the league.


I have not felt the need to challenge any of your decisions in the past. But when my own conception (and many others' conception) of the league conflicts so greatly with your own, I feel I must voice my opinion.
Can I go so far as to call it my 'duty' as co-commissioner? Maybe I'm taking this too seriously.