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Rumors abound that there will be a press release later tonight. Stay tuned.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 06:27:42 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2006, 06:48:58 PM » |
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Okafor coming out of the closet?
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 06:49:16 PM » |
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I heared about a rumor. They want to trade Pettit to the Clippers because netsgm dying wish is to have Pettit and Gordon play on the same team.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2006, 07:41:57 PM » |
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Ok, this will be broken down into sections. the what, the how, and the why (which will address concerns).
What:
Some people may have remembered that I said I would break up my team if I won the title this year. Even though I didn't win, I'm still going through with it. And let's make no mistake about it. I hate it. I despise it. I loathe what I am about to do. I've wrestled with it all year. Everyone wants to build a dynasty (hopefully one that wins more than 1 championship, but that's another story). I thought I had another have decade of this in my team. Okafor's 27. Dalembert's 28. Pettit's 25. Lord's 21. I would like nothing more than to continue my dynasty to last a decade, hopefully win 1-2 more titles in that time. It pains me for all that work I did, molding my team for 7 years to the point where I think I now have the best starting lineup and bench I've ever had. Pettit and Okafor have been the faces of my franchise since its inception, since I traded away my fading franchise player before a game was played, and in the last two years IMO the best 1-2 punch in the league. It's going to hurt to see them playing on another team next year.
But I also realize it has to be done.
How:
Pettit and Okafor's contracts will be zeroed out. All remaining years will be set to a value of $0, and they will be placed within the FA pool for anyone to bid on. The rest of the team I will retain to move at my discretion.
Why:
Isn't zeroing out their contracts illegal? Aren't you getting an added advantage of being the commish by not having them continue to count against your cap?
Sure, I'm getting an added advantage. If you believe I'm doing this to help my team. No, I'm doing this to help the league. Why should I suffer because I'm voluntarily giving away two of the best players in the league in their prime for no compensation? If you have a problem with me getting rid of the players without their contracts counting against me, ask yourself this. Would I be able to trade Pettit for an expiring contract? If you say no, you're absolutely nuts.
Dalembert, Gooden, Dunleavy, Battier and Boykins will combine for 70.5 million next year. My cap's killed regardless. All of these contracts were signed to be complimentary players for Okafor and Pettit. They were given those contracts (or traded for) under the assumption I would be over the cap with Okafor and Pettit anyway. Thsoe contracts without Okafor and Pettit on the team are nuts.
Why not trade them for expiring contracts instead?
I want to give everyone a chance to get them. I don't want to determine who gets Okafor and Pettit, as I would by deciding who to trade him to. I want it to be random.
Why not trade them for whatever you can get?
The whole point of me trading Okafor and Pettit is because the commish winning is bad for the league. I could get immense talent back for these two, and be right at the top of the league.
But this doesn't emulate the real NBA. The real NBA doesn't get to release players!
No, and the real NBA also doesn't see a team who's been to 4 straight finals and win an average of 65.6 games per year over a 3 year span want to give away two of the best players in the league for nothing, either.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2006, 07:57:51 PM » |
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Bods, my one concern is that placing them in this year's FA pool does not give everyone a chance at all. No one has had the chance to look ahead and adjust their caps accordingly.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2006, 08:37:48 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2006, 08:43:45 PM » |
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And there's no way to give everyone a chance.
I had considered making them a FA, not letting anyone sign them, then moving their age back one year, and putting them in the 2013 fa pool, to pretend this offseason never happened with regards to them, and giving people time to clear their cap. in the end I didn't think that was in the best interest of the league.
really, this move isn't about who gets Okafor and Pettit, but that they're taken away from me, since the commish winning isn't good for the league. I'm trying to do what I think is most fair, but nothing will ever be completely fair.
And them being in FA increases the quality of players available for the MLE.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2006, 02:47:39 AM » |
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if i remember the cap right there is only one team with a real chance to get okafor or pettit... the magic. i am not sure who i would take if i have to choose  |
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 03:02:48 AM » |
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if i remember the cap right there is only one team with a real chance to get okafor or pettit... the magic. i am not sure who i would take if i have to choose As of right now, the following (without retirements taken into effect) are under the cap after this season: New York Knicks Orlando Magic Philadelphia 76ers Atlanta Hawks Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons Houston Rockets Utah Jazz Memphis Grizzlies Los Angeles Lakers And there are definite chances for other teams (through retirements) to fall into this category as well. No need to roll any eyes at this move. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 04:14:11 AM » |
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if i remember the cap right there is only one team with a real chance to get okafor or pettit... the magic. i am not sure who i would take if i have to choose As of right now, the following (without retirements taken into effect) are under the cap after this season: New York Knicks Orlando Magic Philadelphia 76ers Atlanta Hawks Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons Houston Rockets Utah Jazz Memphis Grizzlies Los Angeles Lakers And there are definite chances for other teams (through retirements) to fall into this category as well. No need to roll any eyes at this move. i can only see the magic,hawks and the cavs (with a chance to have enough cap space for two max contracts if they trade their firsts  ) with enough capspace for a max offer. and i know you hope that shaq and nash will retire, so it could be the sonics as well. But the magic are the fav to get one of the big FAs. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 04:27:49 AM » |
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And there's no way to give everyone a chance.
I had considered making them a FA, not letting anyone sign them, then moving their age back one year, and putting them in the 2013 fa pool, to pretend this offseason never happened with regards to them, and giving people time to clear their cap. in the end I didn't think that was in the best interest of the league.
really, this move isn't about who gets Okafor and Pettit, but that they're taken away from me, since the commish winning isn't good for the league. I'm trying to do what I think is most fair, but nothing will ever be completely fair.
And them being in FA increases the quality of players available for the MLE. I am really shocked by your move. I would rather have a chance to improve my team and beat you like the clipps did than maybe winning it next year because you destroyed your dynasty. I have won simtitles before but none would mean so much to me like an SSBA one. You really deserved to be on top and it is your knowledge and skills that made me work harder to surpass you. If you want to rebuild make it by trading them for youth and picks like the sonics and the cavs did. They didn´t get always fair value and gambled a lot but the sonics had some success with this strategy. Maybe someone should make a poll and let the other gms decide if it is really so bad to have a commish with the best team earned by hard work. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 04:41:30 AM » |
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if i remember the cap right there is only one team with a real chance to get okafor or pettit... the magic. i am not sure who i would take if i have to choose As of right now, the following (without retirements taken into effect) are under the cap after this season: New York Knicks Orlando Magic Philadelphia 76ers Atlanta Hawks Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons Houston Rockets Utah Jazz Memphis Grizzlies Los Angeles Lakers And there are definite chances for other teams (through retirements) to fall into this category as well. No need to roll any eyes at this move. i can only see the magic,hawks and the cavs (with a chance to have enough cap space for two max contracts if they trade their firsts ) with enough capspace for a max offer. and i know you hope that shaq and nash will retire, so it could be the sonics as well. But the magic are the fav to get one of the big FAs. hopefully, I am  |
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 07:08:42 AM » |
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but if there are 4-5 players worth max contracts, 7 teams with cap space, but only 3 with max room, it means some max players will go for less than max deals. They'll still go to other teams.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 07:13:20 AM » |
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And there's no way to give everyone a chance.
I had considered making them a FA, not letting anyone sign them, then moving their age back one year, and putting them in the 2013 fa pool, to pretend this offseason never happened with regards to them, and giving people time to clear their cap. in the end I didn't think that was in the best interest of the league.
really, this move isn't about who gets Okafor and Pettit, but that they're taken away from me, since the commish winning isn't good for the league. I'm trying to do what I think is most fair, but nothing will ever be completely fair.
And them being in FA increases the quality of players available for the MLE. I am really shocked by your move. I would rather have a chance to improve my team and beat you like the clipps did than maybe winning it next year because you destroyed your dynasty. I have won simtitles before but none would mean so much to me like an SSBA one. You really deserved to be on top and it is your knowledge and skills that made me work harder to surpass you. If you want to rebuild make it by trading them for youth and picks like the sonics and the cavs did. They didn´t get always fair value and gambled a lot but the sonics had some success with this strategy. Maybe someone should make a poll and let the other gms decide if it is really so bad to have a commish with the best team earned by hard work. If I wasn't the commish, I'd agree with you. I strongly believe that a commish winning (for a stustained period of time) is bad for a sim league. |
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