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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2006, 03:36:10 AM »

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Stromile Swift, #2 pick.  career backup.
Darius Miles, #3 pick. borderline starter.
Marcus Fizer, #4 pick, out of league.

Darko Milicic, #2 pick, I don't think he's started a game yet.

Michael Olowokandi, #1 pick, stinks.
Robert Traylor, #6 pick, career backup.

There should be some god awful years.  The previous couple years with FBCB IMO have been very good.

Considering the other two options (hand-made drafts, which I'm against, and FBB giving you no detail), I'm quite happy.

If this becomes commonplace, then I become worried.

That being said, HawksGM is certainly due for a good break Smile
He's had rotten luck just about from the beginning.

And here is where you are off target imho, bods.

You really think above teams made their early picks thinking "we may have found a guy who we think could be a solid contributor in a few years and a prospect who is worth the #3 pick"? I doubt. They were either thinking "this is a guy that will be a contributor NOW (and still get a lot better)" or "we think this could be a star, possibly even superstar, in a few years and thus is a prospect who is worth the #2 or #3 pick".

Nobody drafts a solid contributor in a few years at #3. You see a star or deal the pick, its pretty straightforward.

And here is where i see the Hawks being wrong. There are a few guys who will be solid starters NOW, and who knows about star potential with all this scouted stuff ...
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2006, 08:56:29 AM »

So you're saying in the NBA teams often THINK they're drafting stars when they get stiffs?

So, since we know they're stiffs, that's a bad thing?  Doesn't that mean our ability to scout their potential is good?

Would you rather have it MORE random?

Rather than pointing out problems, what's the fix?
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2006, 03:20:44 PM »

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Rather than pointing out problems, what's the fix?

Actually the discussion reached a level i'm not sure i can follow anymore.

There is no problem, as i mentioned a couple of times, that needs to be fixed. The drafts are ok, the scouting possibilities with FBCB giyve an extra kick to draft analysis, the ratings are not overwhelming but i believe it beats handmade drafts which bring 20 stars into the league each year (as much as I would like to draft such a star here in SSBA).

So please, lets not seek a problem where there is none.

All I did was make fun of a masterful understatement quote from the Hawks about actively seeking a "possible future solid contributor" with the 3rd pick, thats all. Really. Believe me ...
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2006, 05:09:11 PM »

i was misunderstood, or i misspoke.  i mean i found a 18/8 kind of guy.  that's what consider a "solid contributor."  I see a superstar as 25/10 and anything else a solid contributor.  Then in my ranking a role player is beneath them and everything else is the bench players.  I'm not going to get a top notch guy, but more like a Scot Dickman type player, but I think it may take him a couple TC's to get there.  As a rookie he probably won't be like John Tyler and be a double double candidate right off the bat, but imo his potential is very good and judging from college he can play.  I judge this by looking at attributes of players such as Lincold Lord and Max Gutierrez out of college and their success in developing in to pro studs.  I'm not just guessing randomly, I'm guessing based on things I have learned. Laughing
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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2006, 06:01:32 AM »

WOW.

For the first time i can think of in ANY league the draft order went with the probability of ping pong balls.

And the Lakers get yet another top pick (how many where there recently). Hope their furtune reverses some day ...
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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2006, 08:55:58 AM »

David Jonas' cousin who is 7'4, decided to enter the draft. Can you guess who is he? Very Happy
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2006, 10:02:45 AM »

There's a lot of young talent in this league, we're do for a bad draft and about time it's not overloaded with pg's
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2006, 06:33:15 PM »

OH MY GOODNESS, WHERE IS HE ?

http://ssbadraft.phillyarena.net/draft/players/player4185.htm

and don't tell me THAT defense and board work wouldn't get him a first round pickup this year ...
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2006, 06:49:22 PM »

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http://ssbadraft.phillyarena.net/draft/players/player4185.htm

and don't tell me THAT defense and board work wouldn't get him a first round pickup this year ...


Things happen, a lot of people don't make it for some reason. That guy David Hollister had amazing college ratings but turned out to be garbage in the draft. Or good players just aren't in the draft. Who knows why.
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2006, 08:36:02 PM »

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OH MY GOODNESS, WHERE IS HE ?

http://ssbadraft.phillyarena.net/draft/players/player4185.htm

and don't tell me THAT defense and board work wouldn't get him a first round pickup this year ...


Things happen, a lot of people don't make it for some reason. That guy David Hollister had amazing college ratings but turned out to be garbage in the draft. Or good players just aren't in the draft. Who knows why.

Might be, might be.

But I'd have this guy #20 on my draft list NOW (and if you look at potential only he's #13 in this draft  !!!!!).

Missing out on such a guy lets me question that FBCB-FBB transfer ...
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2006, 12:30:21 AM »

It's most likely because Cincinnati, for whatever reason, decided to play him only 1.5 minutes per game his junior year and 19 minutes his senior year.

Maybe FBB is biased against calling someone a top rookie based solely on ratings, excluding production?

Dunno.  I think the issue is more with FBCB and why he wasn't played at cincinatti rather than why he wasn't imported.
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