2013 Draft Preview

[HawksGM]

this isn't the draft for me to have 3 picks in

[CelticsGM]

this isn't the draft for me to have 3 picks in

I guess you can be helped ...

[BlazersGM]

who wants my 2nd rounder ?

[CelticsGM]

who wants my 2nd rounder ?

you know who takes EVERY 2nd rounder. Gimme, gimme, gimme ...
 

[BlazersGM]

i posted, all you need to do is to click the accept button    

[HawksGM]

i think the college drafts are providing more guys who are projects rather than guys like Petit, Gatling and Keogan who come in ready to play and dominate right away.  I think these guys probably need more time to develop but will eventually be as good as some of the prior classes.  Although there has been a top player in each of the previous college drafts prior to this one.

[NetsGM]

i think the college drafts are providing more guys who are projects rather than guys like Petit, Gatling and Keogan who come in ready to play and dominate right away

Depends on the draft.

Last year, Tyler was a beast.  17/14 with 2.5 blocks so far.
Stocker put up 13/13 his first year.
Barner 19/13
Berkowitz put up 20/11 his first season.
Bertram Schultz put up 18/7 from the SG position his rookie year.  Compare his rise with Gatling.

of the trio you listed, Keogan IMO was a huge disappointment his first 2 years.  Gatling was 20-22 ppg his first two years, good, but not significantly better than Schultz (especially when you factor in defense).

I think it has a nice balance of ready to contribute (Schultz, Berkowitz, Tyler), guys who need to develop (Max, Lord, Rex Mehta), and busts.

But this draft looks like poop.

[HawksGM]

oh yea, these college drafts have provided some stud, mainly PF's, but guys like Lincoln Lord, who might be the best pg in the game after another TC, are projects who need to sit for a season or two.  But in this draft I see a few guys who have the potential to be pretty good role players, but nothing special, especially since the only half way ready to play guy IMO is a 6'6 PF who is smaller than most SG's in the game except for my Mason Mercer.

[MagicGM]

jeez.. no love for Brice

[HawksGM]

after a long search, i may have found a guy who I think could be a solid contributor ina few years and a prospect who imo is worth the #3 pick.

[CelticsGM]

after a long search, i may have found a guy who I think could be a solid contributor ina few years and a prospect who imo is worth the #3 pick.

Guys, can we let that sentence run through my DRAFT ANALYZATOR once again:
"After a LONG SEARCH, i MAY have found a guy who I THINK COULD BE a solid contributor IN A FEW YEARS and a PROSPECT who imo is WORTH THE #3 PICK."

So,one by one take a look at the key phrases here:
- LONG SEARCH - this is to be expected with an overload of information available ... only than around 75% of that information is SCOUTED only and may or may not be true !
- MAY - No certainity, look under "scouted only" above.
- I THINK - "may" and "i think" in one sentence doesn't bode too well for whats coming ...
- COULD BE - It's not even certain that he ever will be, now thats a tough act of balance
- IN A FEW YEARS - WHAT, I even have to WAIT for him to become a role player?
- PROSPECT - somewhere in the neighborhood twentyfive alarm bells go off simultaneously, for whatever reason. Could really this word, usually reserved for late 2nd round picks, have such a dramatic effect ?
- WORTH THE #3 PICK - You gotta be kidding me. You are talking round 2 here, right? This can't be the quest to find a top 3 player in the draft, RIGHT? A STAR. A DIFFERENCEMAKER. SOMEONE TO LEAD MY TEAM ANYWHERE SOON ...

{enter deep sigh here ...}

And if you looked closely enough, i didn't even take the biggest questionmark "a solid contributor" into account here. It means that this guy will never be a superstar, most likely never be even a lesser star, but he will be "a solid contributor" at best. Can we call him a "Nocioni for the poor" then?  "Chris Mihm, but without the flair?" "A less polished version of Eduardo Najera?"

Man oh man, if this analysis here isn't a reason to abandon the FBCB draft import i don't know ...
 

[NetsGM]

Man oh man, if this analysis here isn't a reason to abandon the FBCB draft import i don't know ...

So you're saying FBCB hasn't produced good players?

Or that you don't get more info from FBCB than regular FBB?

Or that we should go to hand-made draft files?

[CelticsGM]

to make that clear, i think these drafts are ok.
The statement of hoping to get a possible future solid contributor at #3 is not ...

 

[NetsGM]

http://www.nbadraft.net/2000.htm

Stromile Swift, #2 pick.  career backup.
Darius Miles, #3 pick. borderline starter.
Marcus Fizer, #4 pick, out of league.

Darko Milicic, #2 pick, I don't think he's started a game yet.

Michael Olowokandi, #1 pick, stinks.
Robert Traylor, #6 pick, career backup.

There should be some god awful years.  The previous couple years with FBCB IMO have been very good.

Considering the other two options (hand-made drafts, which I'm against, and FBB giving you no detail), I'm quite happy.

If this becomes commonplace, then I become worried.

That being said, HawksGM is certainly due for a good break
He's had rotten luck just about from the beginning.

[CavsGM]

If the next draft turns out like this one, then there's a real problem. We'll have to see if this year's class is just an exception or that there will be more like these to come...