Just an Idea...Strange One BTW

[SpursGM-old]

I am also starting to get a little worried about the drafts.

However, part of the problem is that lots of the lower end teams are trading away their nice draft picks. It's nice that some Gms have confidence that they will be able to turn things around, but some teams should simply be more conservative with their picks.

But that poses a dilemma....if the drafts are considered poor then keeping one's draft picks are not the way to improve.  

I still think it is too early to judge the drafts.  Not even all of the first draft have really reached their prime yet.  I still have 4 players from that draft and their ages are 23, 25, 26, 26.  One still has A potential and two of the others are solid bench players.

[NetsGM]

I think the draft is actually doing a decent job of churning out decent role players later in the draft, but i'm still questioning whether even all-star talents, let alone franchise players, are coming out of the top of the draft (or anywhere in the draft).  

And I'm not counting the first draft when I'm talking about this, since the first draft was hardwired into the game, not computer generated.

You don't have a franchise level player going 9th like Amare Stoudemire.  There's no shot of turning your team around with the #5 pick (Wade).  It just doesn't happen.

The only even possible all-stars coming out are top picks (English, Keogan, Gatling).  And even those I wouldn't consider sure-fire franchise players (although english is looking it, at least ratings wise, but even that's in a talent filled pg position that's easily replacable).

But, I repeat, that's not what this thread is about.

[SonicsGM]

I think that you will see over the next few years players turn into elite players.

Think Tracy McGrady.  He was ok in Toronto...showed flashes, but wasn't an elite player.  He moved to Orlando and became an elite player in his 5th or 6th season.

Kobe did the same.  There are countless players who need a few years to develop...the key word being develop...to become stars.  Remember, we are still relatively not-that-far into the sim.

Let these guys develop.  Many of them are becoming solid players.  A few have already reached excellence level (English, Pettitt, even second-round Chamberlain).  Let these guys get to age 27-30, and I think that you will see some superstars.

That's my point.

[GoldenStateGM]

Part of the problem may be the old sim.  Having looked at the players you guys had, there were probably 5-10 players who were better then the players in our current sim.

Plus, Boykins of the Mavs still has a chance to be a real special player at PF.  And this last draft, and the next one, have had some decent centers.  These guys still have to develop.

[BullsGM-old]

I think that you will see over the next few years players turn into elite players.

Think Tracy McGrady.  He was ok in Toronto...showed flashes, but wasn't an elite player.  He moved to Orlando and became an elite player in his 5th or 6th season.

Kobe did the same.  There are countless players who need a few years to develop...the key word being develop...to become stars.  Remember, we are still relatively not-that-far into the sim.

Let these guys develop.  Many of them are becoming solid players.  A few have already reached excellence level (English, Pettitt, even second-round Chamberlain).  Let these guys get to age 27-30, and I think that you will see some superstars.

That's my point.

You can't compare NBA development to development in the NBA.  In sim leagues improvment usually takes place on a numerical basis, if you have A potential you're more likely to improve.  In the pro's there are other elements that alter a players progression (mental and physical change).  Also, by the age of 27-30 most players lose their potential (in sim leagues), they're stats are usually pretty stable after their rookie contracts are up

[SonicsGM]

I think that you will see over the next few years players turn into elite players.

Think Tracy McGrady.  He was ok in Toronto...showed flashes, but wasn't an elite player.  He moved to Orlando and became an elite player in his 5th or 6th season.

Kobe did the same.  There are countless players who need a few years to develop...the key word being develop...to become stars.  Remember, we are still relatively not-that-far into the sim.

Let these guys develop.  Many of them are becoming solid players.  A few have already reached excellence level (English, Pettitt, even second-round Chamberlain).  Let these guys get to age 27-30, and I think that you will see some superstars.

That's my point.

You can't compare NBA development to development in the NBA.  In sim leagues improvment usually takes place on a numerical basis, if you have A potential you're more likely to improve.  In the pro's there are other elements that alter a players progression (mental and physical change).  Also, by the age of 27-30 most players lose their potential (in sim leagues), they're stats are usually pretty stable after their rookie contracts are up

Exactly my point.  You have to let them develop to their abilities before they plateau.  Watch out, for example, in 7 years when Stan Manning has had the chance to gain a point here and there each TC.  when his development is over (say at age 27) he will be a very good PF in this league, if not a star.  The point is that patience is needed for the past, current and future draft classes.

[SpursGM-old]

I think that you will see over the next few years players turn into elite players.

Let these guys develop.  Many of them are becoming solid players.  A few have already reached excellence level (English, Pettitt, even second-round Chamberlain).  Let these guys get to age 27-30, and I think that you will see some superstars.

That's my point.

You can't compare NBA development to development in the NBA.  In sim leagues improvment usually takes place on a numerical basis, if you have A potential you're more likely to improve.  In the pro's there are other elements that alter a players progression (mental and physical change).  Also, by the age of 27-30 most players lose their potential (in sim leagues), they're stats are usually pretty stable after their rookie contracts are up

I agree with the Sonics & disagree with the Bulls.  There are several players with C or even a few D potential that are still improving between the ages of 27-31.  Look at Boykins in this past TC.  Or Speedy Claxton from my team.  Potential may not change after their first four years but that doesn't mean that their ratings won't change....and we can't even find out for sure until after a couple more TC.  The very first draft is just finishing their rookie contracts this season.

[CelticsGM]

And guys, never forget this is SCOUTED potential.

Actually doesn't mean anything for TC, just gives you an idea what MIGHT happen ... or not.