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« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2005, 09:42:09 AM » |
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Here's my bottom line.
Raptors ARE the better team. The Bucks ARE a bad matchup, a matchup that was made worse by some nice roster moves. And it was STILL an upset, but not something completely impossible.
The Raptors are a great team, but not one that can't be knocked off by the right opponent in the right situation. The Bucks, with the way their roster is built, are the right opponent.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bucks now get trounced by the Magic. Alot of it is about matchups.
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« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2005, 09:56:00 AM » |
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does match ups creates a huge factor?? two season ago when sixers was tanking he used his center as a point guard and the center did really well...more than what his pg can produce.... FBB is sometimes puzzling...but its fun....  i know magic would win over the players with 3 veteran superstars... i also expected the sixers to win....two words " TIM DUNCAN"...clipps and bucks are a surprise to me....but still its FBB....some crazy stuff in there hehehhe |
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« Reply #92 on: August 17, 2005, 09:58:37 AM » |
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Here's my bottom line.
Raptors ARE the better team. The Bucks ARE a bad matchup, a matchup that was made worse by some nice roster moves. And it was STILL an upset, but not something completely impossible.
The Raptors are a great team, but not one that can't be knocked off by the right opponent in the right situation. The Bucks, with the way their roster is built, are the right opponent.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bucks now get trounced by the Magic. Alot of it is about matchups. I can't disagree with that. Especially since I also lost in the playoffs last year, when I was also 61-21. I don't really care what happens to the Bucks now as long as you lose at some point and keep the record of Championships to Raptors - 0 Nets - 0. |
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« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2005, 09:59:24 AM » |
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Well, if you also remember, the Sixers didn't win with that lineup, and the pg's a/to ratio was terrible, and he didn't get the rest of the team involved.
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« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2005, 10:00:04 AM » |
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Haha.
Don't worry, i'll lose to the Sixers. I'm confident of that.
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« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2005, 10:00:27 AM » |
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Clips are definitely THE biggest shocker to me. I can't belive, the Minny barely made the playoffs and Clips won 60+ games and have no holes what so ever...  p.s. Nets; still standing by your statement that Baron and Marbury are in 2 diferent leagues?  |
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« Reply #96 on: August 17, 2005, 10:04:25 AM » |
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Yes.
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« Reply #97 on: August 17, 2005, 10:05:35 AM » |
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Well, if you also remember, the Sixers didn't win with that lineup, and the pg's a/to ratio was terrible, and he didn't get the rest of the team involved. Yeah. But hey, when you think about it, aren't there alot of teams built like mine? Big man as the leading scorer, perimiter player as the second option, PG with high apg and high topg? I think alot of teams are built like that - yet the Bucks regular season record was only 38-44. |
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« Reply #98 on: August 17, 2005, 10:10:21 AM » |
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Marbury is a defensive sieve.
Marbury vs. Opp starting pg's (on a per 35 minute basis):
PPG: 11.8 vs. 13 (adv opp)
FG%: 45% vs 46% (adv opp)
SPG: 1.4 vs. 1.7 (adv opp)
topg: 2.5 vs. 2.3 (adv opp)
Marbury gets outscored, shoots a worse %, and gets more to's. The only thing he does is get .5 more assists per 35 than the starting pg for the other team.
Yes, I do.
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« Reply #99 on: August 17, 2005, 10:17:47 AM » |
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Maybe I don't understand your point but Marbury actually has better fg% and 2 less TO's then Baron. What are you talking about?
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« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2005, 10:29:51 AM » |
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Defense.
Baron: 45% shooting, opponents 42% shooting
Marbury: 45% shooting, Opponents 46% shooting.
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« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2005, 10:37:33 AM » |
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So Baron is in another league only cause of that 4%  Nevermind he's shooting lower % (in every category, ft, fg, 3p) then Marbury and has 2 TO's more I know you're defensive freak, but is defense really all that matters when comparing the 2 players? |
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« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2005, 10:58:40 AM » |
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4% is a very significant margin.
especially considering the 2 are practically the same offensively (13 ppg at 45% shooting vs 12.6 ppg at 45.4% shooting)
handling i consider even. Baron better at creating for teammates, marbury better at protecting the ball. Baron balances out his TO's by forcing the opposition into TO's, something marbury doesn't.
When you look at net gain (ppg vs. opp ppg, fg% vs. opp fg%, to's vs. opp to's) baron comes out well ahead.
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« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2005, 11:27:35 AM » |
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I don't deny that he's a better defender and a bit better passer. But to say he's in another league it's something i can't accept. Based on stats and how they perform i would say Baron is better PG (but still pretty debatable) but sayin he's in another league is just too much IMO.
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« Reply #104 on: August 17, 2005, 11:37:12 AM » |
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Damn, had to go to work. Tonight is big night here. The biggets soccer game ever in history of Croatia as we host no less then mighty Brazil! Brazil - Croatia, man what a spectacle! Hope they won't embarass us too much . |
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