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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2007, 02:39:15 PM »

well ivan is a very controversial guy. i for my part will miss the discussions i had with him.
the fact that his drop out caused over 30 posts already tells me that he will be missed by some also.
but raptors are wrong imo. ivan lost interest in several leagues before he left SSBA. IMO he still had fun being around here and talking to some guys. but he is no guy who can accept loosing and still motivate himself.
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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2007, 02:39:56 PM »

Yeah, I don't see the "attacks." The Nuggs got into it with him, and Bods, but I can't say that he was run out of the league. And I agreed with him on a fair amount of stuff. I was probably the only person who did.

His real frustration came with not being able to build a winner, which, not coincidentally, is the same reason he quit DJSL.

And Ivan's main concern (judging by the quotes you posted) was obviously the players -- not that he was being treated poorly by other GMs. So I don't think it's necessary to put the argument in his mouth that he was "run out" of SSBA.

Let's not be apologists here. We have nothing to feel bad about. He quit on his own volition. I'm very disappointed to see him go, but no one other than Ivan should feel he has to take responsibility for it.
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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2007, 02:40:45 PM »

Also, Ivan didn't propose changes or discuss.  He criticized and complained.  There's a very big difference IMO.

Perfect example: when people complained about the FBCB drafts, I listened, and changed.  This notion that nobody can have an opinion is just not founded.
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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2007, 02:50:27 PM »


I hate how in SSBA we apparently can't have opinions, everything is taken as pure fact

The thing is, every argument that he started he was basically bashing the way the league is developing and pointing everything out as a fact. He was very adament about it.
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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2007, 03:14:12 PM »

Is Ivan being transformed into the synonym for everything that's bad in sim leagues?
Has he done that himself, made himself villain?
Will the sky fall down and a new, stronger, positive Ivan step from a cloud and lead us into a better world?

Questions over questions.

To find out about the answers don't miss the next episode of "SSBA SOAP" ...
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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2007, 03:32:45 PM »

Is Ivan being transformed into the synonym for everything that's bad in sim leagues?

No, that's taken by John T Franco / mavsfan4life
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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2007, 06:25:56 PM »

LOL, dont mention his name on this boards please, its a curse. He who cannot be named shall remain unamed :p
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« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2007, 04:51:06 AM »

Is Ivan being transformed into the synonym for everything that's bad in sim leagues?

No, that's taken by John T Franco / mavsfan4life
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