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« on: October 11, 2007, 02:23:39 AM »

hey, I am going to waive jim finley. and was thinking will it be made expiring as part of the pacers magic deal. thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 03:07:01 AM »

hey, I am going to waive jim finley. and was thinking will it be made expiring as part of the pacers magic deal. thanks

sorry i missed that. i even paid for it already Sad
he is expiring of course.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 03:07:53 AM »

oh ok. I'll cut him eventually. Smile
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 03:48:57 AM »

(Why would anyone cut a 6mill expiring big man who started on the best team in the league last season?)

The Pacers can't resign him in FA anyway, at least not on day 3 (where he's cut) or day 4 (where 24hr rule applies), is that correct ?

Whatever, Jim's on the market again.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 04:28:51 AM »

of course pacers co
(Why would anyone cut a 6mill expiring big man who started on the best team in the league last season?)

The Pacers can't resign him in FA anyway, at least not on day 3 (where he's cut) or day 4 (where 24hr rule applies), is that correct ?

Whatever, Jim's on the market again.
of course pacers can´t sign him on day 3 but why not on day 4 is a mystery to me?
For me the hours count starts with the post not the cut happen or am i wrong?
By the way i am sure a certain gm will take him Smile
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 04:37:23 AM »

finley isn't part of my team plans. I have tons of big man here
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 06:07:18 AM »

of course that GM will try.
From what I heard he wants a title as badly as you, and his resume looks pretty bleak in comparison.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 07:15:56 AM »

The rules will actually need to be updated for this.  When the rules were written, it was only taken into consideration in-season trades, where signings come on a first come-first serve basis, not that are up to the players decision.

Since we have to wait for Jim to enter the FA pool, which will not happen until after the sim is run and Jim is actually cut, I think the 24 hours should go to when the sim was run, not when the cut was posted.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 08:08:26 AM »

don´t share your point of view here bods. technically he is in the FA pool as soon as his cut is posted. i am sure at least 1 gm will make a FA offer for him for day 3.
So should i ignore this offer because he wasn´t in the FA pool yet or should we handle it that he is in as soon a cut is posted?
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 08:17:04 AM »

I have no idea what you're asking.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 08:19:01 AM »

well, during the season, if someone posts a cut in the "Player cuts" section, everyone can immediately post the signing of that player. And both transactions will be carried out in advance of the following sim.

So I don't see any reason why it should be any different during the FA period.

The reason we've implemented the 24 hrs rule was to prevent teams trading a player, and - after the receiving team cut him - immediately resigning him. The SSBA rules go further, that even if this cut happens a few sims after that trade, the 24 hrs rule is enforced.


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After having cut a player, the cutting team is unable to sign him for 24 hours. This is to give the rest of the league first chance to sign him. If he hasn’t been signed for 24 hours since he was released, the team that released him may sign him once again.

If a player is cut as a result of a trade, no team involved in the trade (either team who traded the cut player, team who received the player, or any other parties involved in the trade who never controlled the player) can sign that player for a period of 24 hours after the player was cut. This doesn't matter when the player is cut with regards to the trade. If it's 3 sims down the line, the same rule applies.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 08:29:42 AM »

Since we have to wait for Jim to enter the FA pool, which will not happen until after the sim is run and Jim is actually cut, I think the 24 hours should go to when the sim was run, not when the cut was posted.
i don´t like the fact that we have now to wait till he is in the FA pool. Like celtics stated we never did that before during regular season.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 08:53:20 AM »

but in the regular season, it's "first come first serve".

in FA, all offers are put in simultaneously, so the Magic and Pacers being able to offer on the same sim Finley's been cut would deceive the intended rule.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 09:04:17 AM »

but in the regular season, it's "first come first serve".

in FA, all offers are put in simultaneously, so the Magic and Pacers being able to offer on the same sim Finley's been cut would deceive the intended rule.
just want to get something clarified here for future reference. if the magic - pacers deal is to be done during the season, and finley was waived right after the deal, it would mean that pacers won't be able to sign him for a like 60 days right? does it also apply in fa, right now?
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 09:16:14 AM »

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in FA, all offers are put in simultaneously, so the Magic and Pacers being able to offer on the same sim Finley's been cut would deceive the intended rule.

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