Magic-Celtics [sorry pacers]

[MagicGM]

Celtics Send:
Orlando
Roan
Celtics 2025 1st
$200
(26.3 mill)

 for

magic sends:
Dwight
Aguirre
(29.5 mill)

[CelticsGM]

Celtics Send:
Orlando
Roan
Celtics 2025 1st
$200
(26.3 mill)

 for

magic sends:
Dwight
Aguirre
(29.5 mill)

Celtics agree.

Let's make a final run with Tyler and Dwight ...

[MagicGM]

Celtics Send:
Orlando
Roan
Celtics 2025 1st
$200
(26.3 mill)

 for

magic sends:
Dwight
Aguirre
(29.5 mill)

Celtics agree.

Let's make a final run with Tyler and Dwight ...

too good to pass up. sorry pacers.

[MagicGM]

just make sure Dwight gets the well-deserved ring.


haD a lot of offers for him but all of them depended on the fa. I wanted a definite deal, asap to get the rebuilding started asap.

[RaptorsGM]

Celtics Send:
Orlando
Roan
Celtics 2025 1st
$200
(26.3 mill)

 for

magic sends:
Dwight
Aguirre
(29.5 mill)

Celtics agree.

Let's make a final run with Tyler and Dwight ...

...and....who else?

[HeatGM]

Celtics trying to advance deep into the playoffs? 

[PacersGM]

well i am not sure what to say now. we had an agreed deal days before and now you trade howard to the celtics. as long as i remember we value an agreement pretty high here.

normally i would challenge that trade and let the comunity decide what to do but i am too involved into it so i let bods decide what to do with this.

[PacersGM]

and if this trade goes trough it has to wait till day 31 because mark can´t be traded before this day.

[CelticsGM]

i would be interested too how you can have an agreed deal with players you don't even have.

[CelticsGM]

.. which is an INTENTION to do a deal at best, but can't be a done deal.

[WizardsGM]

and if this trade goes trough it has to wait till day 31 because mark can´t be traded before this day.

restrictions are enforced on extensions? this is a first for me

[NetsGM]

From what I can tell, this is what went down:
- Pacers and Magic went back and forth on a trade.
- Pacers and Magic made an agreement that included players that needed to be re-signed
- After explaining that the players needed to be re-signed, MagicGM agreed.  There was no ambiguity in the acceptance.  It was a simple "I agree".

As most probably know, I value agreements very highly.  Not only because the league should be filled with people you can trust, but more importantly because once you agree to a trade, you affect the decisions the other GM makes after that.

Whether or not the Pacers/Magic deal should be upheld really boils down to whether or not sign and trade deals are enforceable.  I believe these absolutely have to be enforced.  Why?

Imagine I message someone with cap space.  "Offer this guy this contract, let's do a sign and trade, and I'll trade you these players".  If the guy with cap space goes through and signs those players, then the other GM backs out, he's completely screwed.  He's now wasted his cap space, on players he didn't want, to contracts he didn't want.  Now imagine if a GM agrees to re-sign his previous players to expiring contracts, goes over the hard cap in the process, and then the other GM backs out.  The GM signing the players now lost a draft pick because of the dishonesty of the other GM.

Now, neither of these situations played out in this case because the trade was canceled before day 1 was run, but these are very real scenarios.  I'm very big on setting the correct precedent.  The deal was laid out, and was agreed to that Pacers would have to do a sign and trade.  Magic agreed to this.  Letting someone back out of an agreed to sign and trade deal would be the wrong decision.

Pacers/Magic deal is upheld.  This deal subsequently cannot happen because Dwight has already been traded.

[WizardsGM]

and if this trade goes trough it has to wait till day 31 because mark can´t be traded before this day.

From the Rules page:
Players signed can’t be traded for 60 days, unless they are traded in a sign and trade deal. Sign and Trade deals must be posted within 24 hours of the player being signed. Players given extensions following the playoffs (before the draft) aren’t subject to this rule and can be traded at any time

[NetsGM]

and if this trade goes trough it has to wait till day 31 because mark can´t be traded before this day.

restrictions are enforced on extensions? this is a first for me

Nuggets is correct.  Mark is eligible to be traded at any time.

[SixersGM]

Good trade for both teams. Honestly im also glad that my unfaithful wife.. i mean.. player.. John Tyler is a step closer to championship.

Magic got one of the premiere SFs in the league with Woodridge. While A frontcourt of Dwight and Tyler seems to be one of the dominant frontcourt combo we've seen in this league.