TC discussion

[MagicGM]

bullshit. my mle and lle signees have degressed for the past 2 seasons

[NetsGM]

Meh, nothing special to report overall....

Paid closest attention to my draftees/rooks. The best news is that draft-loopholee/MLE signing Nolan Friedman improved 3 grades overall - 2 on D and 1 in REB, making him at least a serviceable starter. PG prospect Kyle Macy didnt improve one lick - especially disappointing is that his handles stayed at C. Mason Perry improved one grade in D, but his REB stayed at a mediocre C, and Terrence Rice lost a grade on D.

In other Nets related news, Paul Maggette improved in both scoring categories and D at the expense of a one-grade hit in handles. The rest of the NetVets stayed about the same or mildly regressed - a +1 here, a -1 there etc.

[HeatGM]

disappointed on my team...considering how young my team is...hoping for a decent start

[NetsGM]

who the F cares what they did in real life?  The point of these retro drafts are NOT to try to clone real nba players.  Just to capture their names, physical attributes (height, weight) and strengths/weaknesses.  I am not trying to duplicate anything.

[NetsGM]

Also, how many superstar 2 way players are there supposed to be in a league?  Is Max, Lord, Barton in that group?  Pettit and Gatling obviously are.  I'd say Emeka, when he gets back to a full season, still classifies, as does Yao.  Shawn Marion too.  I certainly think Magic could be.  As could Dan Laporte in a few years.  Rex Mehta playe dlike one last year, with 21.4 pts, 13 rebounds, and 4.4 blocks.  Elton Brand was for the longest time, as was KG and Dirk.  I'm not sure if I would consider Hoffa one, but with B+ defense, 25.6 ppg and 12.7 rpg, he's pretty darned close.  Who knows what happens with Bird or Tobey.  I'm just not sure how many I'm supposed to rotate in and out of the league.

(that was a serious questions, btw).

[GoldenStateGM]

Hey, if there are 10, there are ten, and that is that.  Probably a good number...
I would say all the guys you mentioned are capable, with the right players surrounding them, of carrying a team deep into the playoffs.
Honestly, there are probably too many A- and A defenders in the league right now anyway.  There are not that many in the real NBA.

[MagicGM]

did I just miss something?

[KingsGM-old]

Also, how many superstar 2 way players are there supposed to be in a league?  Is Max, Lord, Barton in that group?  Pettit and Gatling obviously are.  I'd say Emeka, when he gets back to a full season, still classifies, as does Yao.  Shawn Marion too.  I certainly think Magic could be.  As could Dan Laporte in a few years.  Rex Mehta playe dlike one last year, with 21.4 pts, 13 rebounds, and 4.4 blocks.  Elton Brand was for the longest time, as was KG and Dirk.  I'm not sure if I would consider Hoffa one, but with B+ defense, 25.6 ppg and 12.7 rpg, he's pretty darned close.  Who knows what happens with Bird or Tobey.  I'm just not sure how many I'm supposed to rotate in and out of the league.

(that was a serious questions, btw).

I don't understand your question. We were debating about lack of talents among fictional players and you're talking about KG, Brand, Yao, Marion etc.

[NetsGM]

I don't understand your question. We were debating about lack of talents among fictional players and you're talking about KG, Brand, Yao, Marion etc.

That's exactly the point, though.

If Brand, Yao and Marion are still top of the line players, you can't bring in 'dominant-out-of-college' players becasue then there will be too many superstars in the league.

BTW, in that paragraph you mentioned, 8 of the players are fictional.

[JazzGM-old]

Dial went +3 in TC, improving in inside scoring, handling, and defense. He might have competed for rookie of the year had I had him as my number one option and an inside focus for the whole season. When i did that he was the rookie of the month. Now he's improved and is one of the more well rounded centers in the league.

Rivera improved +1 in outside, hopefully that improves his percentages. Also, I'm glad he kept his A rebounding.

Hardy improved +1 in handles which will hopefully mean a few less turnovers, a few more assists and a more solid role player in his position holding up the middle of the lineup at SF

Theus maintained his A potential but didn't improve anywhere which was discouraging, but I still have high hopes.

Gresham lost -1 in outside but gained a much more needed +1 in def.

Overall I am content with my improvements. Probably another lottery year which is great considering all of the picks i have for this coming draft! I also picked up some insurance by gaining a 2019 pick by giving up Meyers, which also gives Theus more playing time at his more natural SG position. I'm also in great shape with cap-room...Rivera is a little overpaid but I can't complain as long as he produces.

[KingsGM-old]

If Brand, Yao and Marion are still top of the line players, you can't bring in 'dominant-out-of-college' players becasue then there will be too many superstars in the league.

Ha. Ok, if that's your excuse, i'll take it (although no, i don't think we have enough of superstars in this league but that's just my opinion. The real NBA is far, far more talented and packed with stars than SSBA).

BTW, in that paragraph you mentioned, 8 of the players are fictional.

What about them?

[BucksGM]

I'm not really understanding how you argue that the NBA is far more talented than the SSBA.

Look at the League leaders last year.  How many guys averaged 13 rebounds in the NBA last year, as opposed to 4 in SSBA?  We had 6 SSBA guys average 10 assists last year, only Nash came close in the NBA.  Mehta's 4.4 blocks per game was much higher than the NBA leader.  Nobody averaged 2.9 steals per game in the NBA like Uner. 

The numbers are obviously comparable if not higher than the typical NBA numbers.  And besides, if there was an increase in two way players, it makes compiling the team far easier. 

[BlazersGM]

ah thanks Bucks, you just spared me some time, i was thinking about making a list of NBA and SSBA superstar and young upcoming players to prove Kings that he's wrong.

[KingsGM-old]

Numbers, numbers, numbers. It's a computer game for gods sake. Off course the numbers are going to be higher. The point is how many of those stats translate into winning? What's the use of Patrick Gatling's 30ppg if he didn't make it to the second round in his life, playin alongside KG?

In 10 or so season here, how many fictional players led their teams to the title? One? Two maybe?

[KingsGM-old]

ah thanks Bucks, you just spared me some time, i was thinking about making a list of NBA and SSBA superstar and young upcoming players to prove Kings that he's wrong.

Just one look at the overal, shameful quality of the Western conference last season would be enough for anyone to realize what i'm talking about.