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« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2006, 09:26:21 AM »

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Pacers, i can't exactly remember your offers (that probably means it wasn't any better) but i have my own reasons why i didn't trade Dirk to you.

Now this supports Derek's claim that you will give preference to the Celtics.  

Also if you were so intent on trading Dirk why did you offer him a 5 year salary?  I understand the amount...it was to insure he didn't pick another team but there was no reason for you to resign all your FAs to long contracts then immediately dump them for trash.  Resigning to get value is a legit argument but that's not the actions that were taken.
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« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2006, 09:33:21 AM »

Now this supports Derek's claim that you will give preference to the Celtics.  ...

and me not trading with the Lakers any more means I give preference to the ... Kings ???
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« Reply #77 on: September 08, 2006, 09:36:13 AM »

No, but you sending him a cry for help & basically making the decision for both sides of the deal when no other GM would allow it does show an unhealthy (leaguewise) amount of collusion.
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« Reply #78 on: September 08, 2006, 10:01:55 AM »

i give up

man you know that i made that "cry for help" to just about any team. Most teams didn't answer, some deals didn't work technically, one team didn't want an expiring contract for nothing and some deals would have cost me a lot more than staying above the cap (like your deal).

Only that one with the Kings did GIVE THE KINGS THE BETTER PLAYERS WITHOUT COSTING THEM ANYTHING (ONCE AGAIN). If that's collusion because I worked out the deal then I confess I had been "collution" with at least 16 teams in the past (where I did the same).

I'M GUILTY !!!
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« Reply #79 on: September 08, 2006, 11:37:24 AM »

The Kings didn't get better players...they just got different expirings.  And in a deadline deal to where the players wouldn't help them anyway.  YOU are the only one who benefited from the deal.

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"And I also haven't forgotten that you still get a young project from the Dirk trade. That will also happen next season."

Which had absolutely nothing to do with the deadline deal.  In essence you used the Kings as your private trading partner to avoid losing your draft pick.  Then in return when you "might be mad" at him Kings give you a first rounder for nothing.  That just plain stinks.
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« Reply #80 on: September 08, 2006, 12:03:25 PM »

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Now this supports Derek's claim that you will give preference to the Celtics. 

This supports my ass and it's just a proof you really don't know what are you talking about.

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Also if you were so intent on trading Dirk why did you offer him a 5 year salary?

Um...who could have guaranteed me that the Knicks or any team outhere wouldn't have signed him as well?

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it was to insure he didn't pick another team but there was no reason for you to resign all your FAs to long contracts then immediately dump them for trash.  Resigning to get value is a legit argument but that's not the actions that were taken.

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n essence you used the Kings as your private trading partner to avoid losing your draft pick.

Do i look to you like someone who can be used so easily? He didn't use me, that's what i call a friendship. Something the rest of you don't know shit about as it seems. Didn't i tell that i would have done the same to just about anyone else around here?
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« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2006, 12:18:36 PM »

The Kings didn't get better players...they just got different expirings.  And in a deadline deal to where the players wouldn't help them anyway.  YOU are the only one who benefited from the deal.

I'm not sure a lot of people would call 35yr old Bibby (have you SEEN him play here lately ?) and 28yr old "project" James the better players than Del Negro and AllRookie PG Smith. But hey, everybody is entitled to his opinion.

I avoided a hard cap violation, but I also lost the best player in this deal (if you ask me the two best players actually, but nobody but me likes Del Negro), so that deal is 100% fair (once I'm allowed to pay for the full contract reduction).
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« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2006, 01:04:15 PM »

I'm not going to get on the 'help me from getting under the hard cap' trade.  I know CelticsGM sent many proposals/cries to me.   He made that a sticking point all season.  He just found the one trading partner (Kings) that didn't really care about this season.  That, to me, is more of an indictment on the Kings not caring than collusion.
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« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2006, 03:49:07 PM »

At that time the Pacers had exactly ONE expiring: Tanner
http://files.ssbabasketball.com/files/2015/TC/PostTC/rosters/roster13.htm

I wonder how their season would have been when they dealt their only C Houbregs (you didn't have much trust at that time Priddy can play C) for a third SF in Dirk. (oh i hear the protests already Lenard is really a SG)
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guess i can´t hide any plans from you... Laughing
or maybe you aren´t the only 1 who can be creative with deals  Cheers

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