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« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2006, 10:26:47 AM »

Ok, wel, Bods, your thoughts then?

I don't want to look suspicious given that the KnicksGM is a friend of mine.
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« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2006, 10:33:37 AM »

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The deal will either be enforced or not enforced, there is no more need on agreement.  It's fine to discuss.

ok, enough joking around, let's get serious.

Bods, trades are posted and accepted right HERE. I don't see any acceptance. Trades were never ever done through PM and whatever is said there (or in AIM) is talk only. Sure, it was maybe a rookie mistake to not accept the posted deal (as there was whatever conversation going on), but fact is, no deal was accepted.

We've handled it that way so far and I'd really ask to keep it that way, for the sake of "legal certainity" alone.
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« Reply #62 on: April 06, 2006, 10:34:34 AM »

Celtics, he was talking about the Raptors-Kincks deal that has been brought up in this thread.
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« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2006, 10:37:08 AM »

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The deal will either be enforced or not enforced, there is no more need on agreement.  It's fine to discuss.

ok, enough joking around, let's get serious.

Bods, trades are posted and accepted right HERE. I don't see any acceptance. Trades were never ever done through PM and whatever is said there (or in AIM) is talk only. Sure, it was maybe a rookie mistake to not accept the posted deal (as there was whatever conversation going on), but fact is, no deal was accepted.

We've handled it that way so far and I'd really ask to keep it that way, for the sake of "legal certainity" alone.
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« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2006, 10:44:08 AM »

Actually, I misread.  I was talking about this thread, not raptors/knicks.  Yeah, don't comment on that.

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Um...no.  In fact, there was a trade in the past where it was enforced based on acceptance in PM's.  I take it differently than most other commish's.  If you say you accept, you accept.  It's a contract before it gets onto this forum.  It's always been that way here.

Most contracts in life are enforcable even without official documentation.  Just a verbal agreement is a contract.  That's how it's always been handled here.
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« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2006, 11:04:27 AM »

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Actually, I misread.  I was talking about this thread, not raptors/knicks.  Yeah, don't comment on that.

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We've handled it that way so far and I'd really ask to keep it that way, for the sake of "legal certainity" alone.


Um...no.  In fact, there was a trade in the past where it was enforced based on acceptance in PM's.  I take it differently than most other commish's.  If you say you accept, you accept.  It's a contract before it gets onto this forum.  It's always been that way here.

Most contracts in life are enforcable even without official documentation.  Just a verbal agreement is a contract.  That's how it's always been handled here.

Oh good to know. Sorry then ... no wait a moment, that's PERFECT !!!
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« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2006, 12:55:38 AM »

well, since we're throwing a living fish into water, any final decision...?  Confused
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« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2006, 03:38:40 PM »

I'm sorry, I'm still not going to hold KnicksGM to the deal.

I don't buy the "if".  Once you make a new offer, it tells me the deal is not yet finalized.  What if he goes "yeah, I'll do it for Darius, but I won't include Nguyen.  To do that you'd have to give me <this pick>".

Then you come back, "no, I won't include this pick, but I will this".  And you keep going back and forth.  Are you then, at any point in the continued negotiations, allowed to go back and hold KnicksGM to the deal agreed upon in prior conversations?  

Sorry, when you make a new offer, you are doing so cancelling the previous agreement.  I'm sorry that this prevents the raping of a new GM, but this is my decision, and should be followed as a precedent for future negotations-after-agreements.

Once a deal is agreed upon and posted on the board, there is only one possible next step.  The other party posting "I agree".  There should never be continued negotiations or a decline, ever.

Knicks, if you have any questions in the future, please PM me.  While I sided with you, I do not like ignoring PM's or trade threads at all.  I'm always here to answer questions, as are many people on this board.  Feel free to use our experience.
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« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2006, 06:10:49 AM »

w/e
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« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2006, 06:26:48 AM »

Laughing nm. I was supposed to butt-in. haha
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