Austrian heroics @ Olympics Torino 2006

[CelticsGM]

She is just 23, if injurys dont occurr too often, in next 7-8 seasons when she will finish her career she will be the best ever for sure by statistics as well.

Kostelic would be 27 next Olympics. If she continues at her current pace, getting injured more and more each year there won't be another Olympic games for her.

And don't forget one thing: LUCK. In 2002, when she won 3 Olypmic gold and a silver medal, she plain lucked out. In the other 35 races that season she won exactly ONCE and finished top 3 TWO MORE TIMES !!! That season she finished 14th in the overall world cup standings no less.


So don't make her look like a superhero. This season, her most complete so far in her career, the Olympics were mediocre by her standards, in 2002 it was vice versa.
 

[KingsGM-old]

Superhero?

She's the frikkin Michael Jordan of skiing!

But you know what, yes you're right. There is no way i'm going to disscuss with you. End of conversation.

[CelticsGM]

The "M_I_C_H_A_E_L  J_O_R_D_A_N  O_F  S_K_I_I_N_G". Hahaha, too funny.

Since skiing is no team sports i'd probably call her the DAN O'BRIAN of skiing. If you don't know him he was one of the best decathlon athletes from the US ... and injured a lot too.

Janica won ONE downhill, ONE super-g, ONE giant slalom (all three her career first), ONE slalom and ONE combined event this season and she's leading the overall world cup standings. So she definitely shows her versatility competing in every race (but being hardly favourite in anything but the slalom).


Hey, croatians, she's good, but she's not, repeat NOT the best skier ever to "lace them up". But if everythings runs right she has the tools to get there once her career is done ...

... and thats as much as i will agree to. nuff said !
 


btw, Dorfmeister continued her winning ways from the Olympics taking the Super-G in Hafjerr/NOR earlier today. Janica finished 14th ...

[ClippersGM-old]

Man, I really hope you don't "lace up" your skiing boots. Either those boots are very very old, or I just have no idea of modern day skiing boots! See, I have been snowboarding for almost 20 years, so I am not into the skiing thing very much.

[BlazersGM]

it was not luck, she is best when its most needed, like she proved many times winning tons of World Cup medals and those olympics, on big events shes psichologically best prepared always and thats a big adventage she has over other skiiers.

but like Kings sayed, End of conversation  

[CelticsGM]

it was not luck, she is best when its most needed, like she proved many times winning tons of World Cup medals and those olympics, on big events shes psichologically best prepared always and thats a big adventage she has over other skiiers.

but like Kings sayed, End of conversation  

Not so fast homers ...

She might not even be the best ACTIVE skier. Anja Paerson, just a year older than Janica. She has a couple less medals (but took a gold and two more in Torino2006), but won a lot more races than Janica overall including multiple races in every category, not just slalom. And she won 2 overall world cups, just as Janica. An injury cut her season short this year, but otherwise she's the current leader. Sorry ...
 

[BlazersGM]

u nuts hommie ??? Janica spent 2 years not racing with injury, and she has A LOT more WC medals, a lot more OG medals, and FIS victories ??? Also a lot more, not to mention Person never won in all cathegorys(slalom,downhill,etc) and Janica is the only one with Vreni and Katja who achieved that (i think Pernilla also but im not sure about her).

[CelticsGM]

just check before you post:

World Cup Victories
Kostelic
DH GS SL SG K TOT
01 01 18 01 05 26
World Champ's: 5 gold 5 overall
Olympics: 4 gold, 6 overall

Paerson
DH GS SL SG K TOT
02 11 17 02 00 32
World Champ's: 4 gold 6 overall
Olympics: 1 gold, 5 overall

So yes, Kostelic got 4 more golds but both have 11 medals at big events, 2 overall world cups and Anja won at least twice in every category but (surprisingly) combined.

And the other skiers who won in every category were Pernilla Wiberg and Austrian Petra Kronberger, a 3-time world cup winner from 1990-92. Vreni never even raced a a downhill I believe and Katja was a speed queen mostly.

again, big thanks to ski-db.com for assisting me in proving the croations wrong over and over again ...
 

[KingsGM-old]

it was not luck, she is best when its most needed, like she proved many times winning tons of World Cup medals and those olympics, on big events shes psichologically best prepared always and thats a big adventage she has over other skiiers.

but like Kings sayed, End of conversation  

Not so fast homers ...

Anja Paerson,
 

ARE YOU FUCK**** INSANE??? Anja Person said that Janica is her biggets nightmare and SHE ADMITTED that she can't keep up with her cause she's too good!!! The last time Janica won the gold, Anja was furious and SHE WAS CRYING IN FRONT OF WORLD WIDE CAMERAS!!! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

[CelticsGM]

At the last count, Kostelic won 26 world cup events, Annemarie Moser won 62 (and 6 times the overall world cup) and Vreni Schneider 55 (3 overall titles). Forget that "best ever" argument until her career is over if ever ...

[CelticsGM]

my argumentation: Janica is very good, among the world best skiers (with Anja and Dorfmeister), got more GOLD medals but but didn't win as many world cup races. And it's hard to find out if she's the best there ever was (how do you compare generations?).

your argumentation: JANICA IS SUPERHERO, BEST THERE EVER WAS, NOBODY IS EVEN CLOSE AND WHOLE SKIING CIRCUS BREAKES DOWN CRYING WHEN SHE ARRIVES.

well, I let that speak for itself ...
     






Giving the competition some credit is something Janica has yet to learn and she's apparently not the only croatian having a problem with that ...
 

[BlazersGM]

lets talk in 3-4 years, i tought topic was closed long ago, quit flying  

[CelticsGM]

lets talk in 3-4 years, i tought topic was closed long ago, quit flying  

sure, thats what i'm saying, lets talk in a few years. Her place in history wont be known before then.

and only you and Ivan tried to close the discussion running out of arguments ... apart from you that blasphemic MJ comparison, which of course i couldn't let stand here unanswered ...

But now all is said i guess. Lets enjoy the sports again ...
 

[KingsGM-old]

... apart from you that blasphemic MJ comparison
 

Blasphemic?

MJ won 6 titles, Janica has 4 Olympic golds and has been 5 time World champion! Why is that blasphemic??

And please Tom, please...don't even put Anja Pearson in the same sentence with Janica Kostelic.

[KingsGM-old]

Giving the competition some credit is something Janica has yet to learn and she's apparently not the only croatian having a problem with that ...
 

That's a complete lie. She's very modest and down to earth girl (like her all family) and she always congrats her opponents on a race and she NEVER talks about herself.

And trust me, croatians really don't have a problem with that. We (sadly) in general almost never respect anything that's ours. If we were to have a diferent mentality we would probably be one the richest state in the world.