Austrian heroics @ Olympics Torino 2006

[CelticsGM]

... apart from you that blasphemic MJ comparison
 

Blasphemic?

MJ won 6 titles, Janica has 4 Olympic golds and has been 5 time World champion! Why is that blasphemic??

And please Tom, please...don't even put Anja Pearson in the same sentence with Janica Kostelic.

So I guess 10-time world champion Michael Phelps is the greatest athlete of all time, beating MJ's 6 titles + 2 olympic golds + 1 world championship. Ups there was Mark Spitz, winning 7 or 8 gold medals at Munich 72. Or countless others ... what a crappy argument

In fact, let's call her one-time wonder in some disciplines (like downhill, where she was world champ despite never winning a downhill race before. Same goes for her giant slalom olympic gold - though she later won both events ONCE *lol*). Phelps won like 30 races in each discipline he later captured gold.

Man oh man, the more i look into the facts the more overrated your beloved Janica looks ...
 

[BlazersGM]

At the last count, Kostelic won 26 world cup events, Annemarie Moser won 62 (and 6 times the overall world cup) and Vreni Schneider 55 (3 overall titles). Forget that "best ever" argument until her career is over if ever ...

she just won 27th and you can count one more title now, being 3, if she hasnt been injured 2 years, she would have at least 10 more wins and at least 1 title more(she was winning everything (all slalom races except 1 then))............and dont forget she lost one title when she got injured few races before the end and she had like 250 points more then others but in last 5,6 races one girl (i think it was dorfmeister) collected more end she ended up 2nd or 3rd.

[KingsGM-old]

 Mark Spitz,  what a crappy argument

Once again you responds tells me that you didn't even read my post. Did i say that she's better then MJ? It was a comparision.

Wasn't Mark Spitz Michael Jordan of swimming? Why isn't that valid comparison? Both atlethes dominated in their own field.

Read next time before you make a counter point.

[CelticsGM]

 Mark Spitz,  what a crappy argument

Once again you responds tells me that you didn't even read my post. Did i say that she's better then MJ? It was a comparision.

Wasn't Mark Spitz Michael Jordan of swimming? Why isn't that valid comparison? Both atlethes dominated in their own field.

Read next time before you make a counter point.

You finally got it.

Spitz winning 18 gold medals (including 9 Olympic) and retiring at age 22, Phelps winner of 17 gold medals  and counting being just 21 now. I don't have to post MJ's achievements here. All three DOMINATED every competition.

Kostelic does not. She's a good alpine combined and especially slalom skier racing to 24 of her 27 wins in these events. Only this season she won her first race in any of the other events too, but that versatility comes with a price as she only got one slalom win in 8 starts. So to say she's DOMINATING alpine skiing is a bit of a reach. Janica is capable of a top5 finish in most races, but she's hardly favoured to win, especially in the speed events. And that seperates her from the all-time greats so far. MJ, Spitz and in skiing Vreni Schneider and Ingemar Stenmark were EXPECTED to win and it was a surprise if they didn't.

Unfortunately you hear here talking bout the end of her career. It's just sad that will all her injuries you can only wonder what could have been.
 

Now while I disagree with Blazers that she WOULD have won this or that barring injury (no, Marin, she just COULD have won, nobody knows) it's clear to me that she is part of the greatest all-time skiers. Just not THE best there ever was ...

[GrizzliesGM]

Sorry I'm late.

U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A!!! (chanting)

[BlazersGM]

lets say it 28, and lets say it 3rd title  

[CelticsGM]

lets say it 28, and lets say it 3rd title  

Oh, and Paerson won her 33rd race today. Janica won her 3rd event cup today (all slalom) and now has as many as Paerson (two giant slalom, one slalom).

And Austria has another overall world cup winner in Benny Raich, 2-time world champ and 2-time olympic gold medalist. Congratulations ...

[BlazersGM]

3rd WORLD TITLE !!! wasnt talking about 3rd slalom title, unless Anja wins remaining 4 and Janica doesnt compete at all.

[CelticsGM]

3rd WORLD TITLE !!! wasnt talking about 3rd slalom title, unless Anja wins remaining 4 and Janica doesnt compete at all.

Exactly. Her chances of getting injured again aren't even covered by Lloyd's anymore !!!

Some back when she actually won it ...
 

[KingsGM-old]

Just putting Paerson in the same sentence with Janica is a blasphemy.

[CelticsGM]

Just putting Paerson in the same sentence with Janica is a blasphemy.

you repeat yourself.

get back to us when Janica won as many races as Anja, which might take her another season to make up the difference of 28 to 33 ...

man, you croats are unelievable homers ...
 

[BlazersGM]

bla bla bla bla, youre impossible  

[BlazersGM]

ive checked, on FIS site and Anja-s site, Anja has won 19 world cup races not 33 !!!!!! what u saw was probably 33 wins in all events, world cup, world championship, fis races, olympics etc....so Janica has 2 seasons less then Anja and 9 wins more in world cup races (FIS).

Janica has 4 olympic golds, Anja 1.

Janica has more World championship medals then Anja and more World Cup titles so this topic is closed.

cya

[CelticsGM]

ive checked, on FIS site and Anja-s site, Anja has won 19 world cup races not 33 !!!!!! what u saw was probably 33 wins in all events, world cup, world championship, fis races, olympics etc....so Janica has 2 seasons less then Anja and 9 wins more in world cup races (FIS).

WRONG.

Anjy clearly gets the edge here as she won 33 WORLD CUP races (Kostelic 28) in addition to 35 more podium places in world cup races (Janica 25 more). Check here (and believe me, the first table is ONLY world cup races):
Anja: http://www.ski-db.com/db/profiles/wpaean.asp
Janica: http://www.ski-db.com/db/profiles/wkstja.asp

Both won 2 overall world cup titles (with Kostelic likely winning a third one now).

Guess you need a more reliable source next time

Janica has 4 olympic golds, Anja 1.

Janica has more World championship medals then Anja and more World Cup titles ...

Janica gets the edge here, being there when it counts.

Kostelic got 5 world champ gold's (in 7 starts), Anja got just 4 plus a silver and a bronze (in 8 starts)
Kostelic got 4 olympic golds and 2 silver medals (in 8 starts) while Anja got one gold, one silver and three bronze (in 6 starts)


These are THE two prime female skiers now, and you give NOBODY BUT YOUR GLORIFIED KOSTELIC ANY CREDIT, you jerks ...
 

[BlazersGM]

Read the official stats on FIS site not some jackass ski db shit