Raptors/Clippers Trade

[RaptorsGM]

Raptors Trade:

Darius Perry
Tayshaun Prince

Clippers Trade:

Josh Childress
Stefan Holston
Clippers 2013 First Round Draft Pick

Raptors agree.

[ClippersGM-old]

Clippers agree.

[SonicsGM]

This is an absolute steal for the Raptors.

Childress is an offensive dynamo who can defend AND rebound at the two swing positions.  (think shawn marion).

Plus, he lands a first rounder as well.

Wow, in a league dominated by PGs, Darius Perry is alright, but not worth Childress...in my opinion.

However, with the success of the Clips...it is hard to disagree with anything he has done...maybe he knows something that I don't.

Anyways, good deal for the Raps.

[PacersGM]

very good deal for the raptors imo
he trades two backups for a SF who could be a starter on most teams.The pick is way too much for perry.

[CelticsGM]

Big risk by the defending champ here. They'll miss that versatility that Chills brought and made them so hard to deal with. While I see Ben doing great at SG I believe Maggs was perfect there. He won't be the same on SF.
Perry/Ben/Maggs will allow the opponent to focus a lot more on Ben.
Ben/Maggs/Prince will reduce them to 4 scorers on offense.
Perry/Ben/Prince ... nah.

I don't see them getting in a winning situation here unless Perry suddenly develops into a 15ppg scorer and great distributor.

[NetsGM]

I'm not sure i'd call Childress an "offensive dynamo".  

But I agree, he overpaid.  Perry was quite a disappointment last year.

[HawksGM]

I think the Clipps gave a little too much for a unproven point but he's a good gm, he knows what hes doing

[PacersGM]

if i remember right he traded josh for livingston and now back for perry.
that is a big drop in production. maybe perry will explode in the next TC??

[PacersGM]

this is the seond great trade for the raptors in a row ...
glad to see yao isn´t anymore there ...
could you imagine a starting lineup of max, josh, dickau, gasol and yao ???

[MagicGM]

I've been a GM of the Magic since the beginning, and I ain't never heard of Darius Perry.

anyway, I think the Raptors got the real edge in this deal. But the Grizzlies might have needed a point guard and perhaps Darius Perry is what the Clippers think would be a better fit for his team.

Giving up the pick; however, is a stretch

[GoldenStateGM]

The Clippers have been looking for a point guard for a long time, and Perry is an excellent fit for them.
Look at Perry's play as a point guard, and not his play as the starting sg for the Raps.  He had an excellent Assist:TO ratio (although how much of that was created by Yao is a question), is a very good ballhawk, and is also an excellent rebounder from the PG position.

Ben Gordon at SG is probably a 25 ppg scorer, playing at SG held his scoring back a little.

Clippers pick is pointless, it means very little in this trade.
Childress has been an enigma, he has never played as well as you would hope.  But he is a perfect fit on the Raptors, who need the defense at the SG spot.

The Raptors have just vaulted in the top 4 teams in the East with this trade, imo.

[RaptorsGM]

Thanks guys. My reasoning was pretty simple: I love Perry, but I don't need him with Max and Dench. Perry obviously is great, but after having the best TC of all players in the SSBA last season, it would be wrong to expect much more improvement from him.

Who knows about the Clippers pick. I have seen alot of Championship teams rebound with a poor (by their standards) season. If the Clipps pick turns out to be in the 20-22 range, that would be awesome. Since this year's draft was brutal, maybe next year's will be better.

And finally, Childress reminds me of a poor man's Marion, as someone said. I don't think he is an "Offensive dynamo", but he is a decent scorer, putting up double figures will starting in recent years. Also, his size is going to be great for the 2, and he will be able to rebound well. Team rebounding will be big this year, as my 5 starters last year averaged: 7, 12, 7, 5, 4. All of these numbers will go up. Plus, Childress still has the B potential.

So anyway, save for a decent backup C to be found in FA, this is the Pre-TC Raptors depth chart, with ages, potential in brackets:

C: Swift (24, B) / Garcia (23, B) / Swift
PF: Gasol (30, C) / Garcia / Gasol
SF: Anthony (26, B) / Dickau (26, B) / Melo
SG: Childress (27, B) / Dickau / Childress
PG: Max (22, A) / Dench (27, B) / Max

This lineup is good enough to (IMO) win 50 games this season, and be even more successful with each year. Of course, much like the Peja-Yao era, I am probably done making any significant trades for a few seasons, which stinks. Part of the reason I wanted a draft pick this year, so I had something to do

[NetsGM]

Perry obviously is great

wow.

just wow.

[CelticsGM]

very good deal for the raptors imo
he trades two backups for a SF who could be a starter on most teams.The pick is way too much for perry.

Disagree, we all know what a pick in the 20-29 range is: useless salary to carry around for 4 years.

Every once in 20 picks a gem comes along but waiting for that is simply not an strategy for a contender.

So the pick is the least price to pay here, and IF Perry improves (big IF, as Raptors lined out, since he topped the class last season) this will be a good deal for both. Right now I see the Clippers with Perry a tad behind the Clippers with Chills. But don't forget Prince, who's another solid guy, so maybe i'm completely off target here ...


... looking at my record i don't seem to be the best here at assessing talent and putting together winning teams

[RaptorsGM]

Perry obviously is great

wow.

just wow.

Bah, come on. Don't tell me you haven't heard anyone every say that someone is "great" when they actually aren't.

When you get something you don't want for your birthday, you don't say "i don't want this" you say "this is great".