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« on: June 15, 2005, 11:35:09 PM »

Sixers Trades:
Mike James
Corliss Williamson
John Salmons

Suns Trades:
Ethan Terpening
Dion Glover
Richard Hamilton

Then after the deal would went through..

Sixers Trades:
Glover back to Suns

Suns trades:
Korver to Philly

It should work because its a one on one deal.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 11:35:58 PM »

I agree
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2005, 03:00:10 AM »

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well, well, well. I'm not sure I like this trade from the Suns point of view at all.

Sure they gid rid of an unfavourable contract in Rip who did little in return for all the bucks, but
  - they gave up one of their cornerstone young talents in Terp (who did very good since Kobe left)
  - took back a similar high contract in older James (albeit shorter) thus freeing up only 3mio cap space
  - who in addition plays the same position as the other young cornerstone Havlicek
  - and gave up on of the better backups in Glover for worse scrubs

no, I don't think that deal benefits the Suns unless there's more to follow ...
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2005, 06:21:23 AM »

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well, well, well. I'm not sure I like this trade from the Suns point of view at all.

Sure they gid rid of an unfavourable contract in Rip who did little in return for all the bucks, but
  - they gave up one of their cornerstone young talents in Terp (who did very good since Kobe left)


Mike James is a very good PG. He average about 13ppg, almost 5 rebounds, 7apg and 1.6spg for me when he was playing PG for my team. Now that he's playing out of position, he's still averaging 10ppg , 4.6rpg, 5.+ apg, and 1.6 spg. And rating wise, mike james also got the better end.
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  - took back a similar high contract in older James (albeit shorter) thus freeing up only 3mio cap space

high but deserving and a shorter one.
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  - who in addition plays the same position as the other young cornerstone Havlicek

He can play a james and havlicek backcourt and diddle at the sf position.
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  - and gave up on of the better backups in Glover for worse scrubs

What has Glover done so far? He's averaging mediocre stats.

I think that this deal is a fair deal for both teams. Suns got to dump RIP's contract and got a very solid player in Mike James.

For the sixers, I need a SG/SF type player because AI is now playing the PG position. I felt that RIP, Glover and Terp can help me at that spot.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2005, 07:11:15 AM »

I like the deal for the Sixers who get younger and don't give up too much starter material.

With AI taking over the PG spot, James was expendable. Rip/Austin at SG and Terp/Davis at SF will be solid choices there. So unless Terpening really is a "D" potential and regresses in TC, there is a clear-cut winner in this trade.

On the other hand, the suns don't lose too much short term as Hav / James / Diddle (a really SMALL forward) CAN man the backcourt now (without much backup help though) but is this really better than Hav/Diddle/Terpening when you gain just 3 mio cap space ...  Question
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2005, 10:31:53 AM »

after review, i beleive our deal has to wait until day 91 to be completed, as terperning was dealt less than 60 days ago.

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2005, 11:13:40 AM »

sorry guys but i think this shouldn´t be allowd to trade a guy only because of the 60 day rule. there should be a rule that nobody can be traded back to the original team within 60 days or released and signed from the original  team also wihtin 60.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2005, 11:17:14 AM »

There should be a rule like that, and there will be, but there isn't currently.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2005, 11:30:03 AM »

Future bastardizations of the 60 day rule in this variation won't be allowed:
http://phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13195#13195

I should have done this after the Hawks/Sonics trade last year, but let it slide.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2005, 11:34:56 AM »

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sorry guys but i think this shouldn´t be allowd to trade a guy only because of the 60 day rule. there should be a rule that nobody can be traded back to the original team within 60 days or released and signed from the original  team also wihtin 60.

at least the release/resign part would take the bird years from that player which would be penalty enough for me.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2005, 11:43:37 AM »

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there should be a rule that nobody can be traded back to the original team within 60 days or released and signed from the original team also wihtin 60.


That rule's actually already in there, or at least a variation of that.

http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/rules.htm#fa_waivers
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2005, 12:16:40 PM »

I caused that rule Very Happy
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2005, 07:53:41 PM »

basically its mike james for terpening with expiring....

i think its fair...but i like it on philly....terpening has amazing ratings...he can be the next marion in a  couple of TC....he's D pot doesnt mean anything because he is still young.....

this is a good trade for the sixers.....i envy him.... Laughing
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2005, 07:54:31 PM »

terp can't be traded until day 91.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2005, 09:34:29 PM »

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basically its mike james for terpening with expiring....

i think its fair...but i like it on philly....terpening has amazing ratings...he can be the next marion in a  couple of TC....he's D pot doesnt mean anything because he is still young.....

this is a good trade for the sixers.....i envy him.... Laughing


Trade Terpening for quentin.
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