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« on: July 20, 2009, 02:50:43 PM » |
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Pistons Trade:
Len Bias
Lakers Trade:
Brandon Roy
Ike Diogu
Paul Pressey
2032 76ers 1st
Pistons Accept...
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Iverson2Korver43
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 03:01:07 PM » |
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I believe this has to wait until day 51 as well...
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 04:46:07 PM » |
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Pistons Trade:
Len Bias
Lakers Trade:
Brandon Roy
Ike Diogu
Paul Pressey
2032 76ers 1st
Pistons Accept...
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CelticsGM
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2009, 06:07:56 PM » |
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Strange deal. Bias might have as much impact on the Lakers winning as Roy did ... only Brandon just happens to be 34 mill cheaper over the next 3 seasons (AND at least 12 more over the following two) ... and is 5 years younger ... and has more potential ... and on top the Pistons get Diogu, a first rounder, and a cheap & expiring veteran star ???? This makes less than zero sense for the Lakers, who might as well have turned into the real life Clippers here.  |
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2009, 07:00:05 PM » |
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As mush as I wanted to keep my team the same, I had no choice but to try and clear some cap-space... Now I just have to hope that Roy can play SF and improves a little over the next couple TC's...
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2009, 07:49:38 PM » |
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I hope for my sake that Roy can't play SF and that Diogu doesn't develop and Pressey hopefully decides he should still play like a pre-season POM and shoot too much and turn it over. I like the good aggressive move by the Pistons to ensure they stay on top for longer. Losing Bias will hurt in the next couple sims, until Pistons gets the new rotation figured out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2009, 09:19:15 PM » |
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This appears to be a heavily lopsided deal, favoring the Pistons tremendously.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2009, 10:11:14 PM » |
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In all honestly I don't see how it is so much in my favor... Roy is putting up 20 PPG on one of the worst teams in the league and his defense seems to be below par... Diogu is a weak defender and rebounder... Pressey can't shoot and turns the ball over way too much... The 76ers 1st is likely in the 24-28 range... I would have rather kept Bias, but I just can't afford him if I want to compete in the future...
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 01:47:22 AM » |
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sorry but this deal is one of the worst in history of this league. giiving up the 2 best players of the Lakers roster on rookie contracts, an expiring who still is pretty solid and a first for a guy who has a horrible contract, and to top that the lakers aren't even in a win now situation. i hope the LAKERS can explain this, otherwise i assume it is a gift for the pistons before stepping down as the Lakersgm. IMO this move will destroy every possible future for the Lakers, we should consider to veto such deals.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 04:29:39 AM » |
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exactly my thoughts.
If the worst team in the league gives it's two most promising rookies (and I consider Roy's 19/5/4 and more steals than TOs on the same level as Bias' 18/5/3 on worse shooting %), the preseason league MVP (i don't overvalue that, but still), and reduces it's salary cap space for the next season from 20 mill to 8 mill, then it's a favor, nothing more.
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Last season, the Lakers posted 4 DC's and one position change, that's it.
This season, his lone post was a trade block: "Currently looking to trade Oakley and Daugherty. Both can go for picks/expiring."
In that context, this deal makes no sense at all, it's exactly the opposite what the Lakers wanted (and should) do.
Waiting on the Lakers explanation why I should put that crap through. And it better be a good explanation. And a hint on a plan. Any why he wants to stay GM for that matter ...
(sorry Pistons, this is clearly not your fault. but when someone deliberately destroys a team's future - one he doesn't look he's interested in any longer - the league has to do something.)
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 07:42:03 AM » |
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I don't want to worsen the damage but how Pistons was able to get a reply from LakersGM is beyond me. I've sent the guys like 3 PM inquiries. No reply. 3 same questions. lol
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 07:55:56 AM » |
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I don't want to worsen the damage but how Pistons was able to get a reply from LakersGM is beyond me. I've sent the guys like 3 PM inquiries. No reply. 3 same questions. lol
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2009, 10:09:18 AM » |
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From a talent perspective I don't think it's that far off. Diogu is pretty bad, Pressey is way past his prime (and not very good), and Roy's scoring average will drop sharply on the Pistons. The draft pick is pretty useless. Bias is only 28, and is the best player in the trade. For what it's worth, Bias will probably score 25+ on the Lakers.
Of course, it makes no sense for the Lakers because they're not contending, but I don't think this makes them a worse team. But it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the Pistons either for that matter.
But, imo, it's clearly not lopsided enough to actually refuse to put the trade through.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 10:27:40 AM » |
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If you guys love Diogu and Pressey that much I would gladly send them along to any of you... Like I said, I am only looking for cap relief and a replacement SF... Diogu will be riding the pine, but I might let Pressey see 10 minutes of gametime... And anyone can have the 76ers pick for a future 1st or some cash...
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 10:51:18 AM » |
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Tend to agree with Hornets here. Seems like Lakers reasoning would be: A) to get the best player in the deal - which he does at the moment, and B) consolidate assets somewhat - by clearing out some replaceable talent (Diogu, the first are exactly that, with Pressey not far behind). There IS merit in clearing out roster junk like that.
Pistons rationale is to get a cheap replacement and save some cap - turning a 13mil (or whatever) Bias into a slight downgrade and about 7mil hit when the pick/Diogu are considered
Roy is the better option for someone in Lakers position, you'd think, and making that kind of salary commitment (to Bias) instead of to Roy for the sake of clearing out abit 4 mil is maybe not the best way to clear stuff out, but that's his deal and call to make.
Not a good trade for him, in my opinion, but not terrible in the "cancellable" sense.
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