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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2007, 06:02:35 PM »

By the way, I don't think there's a "right" or "wrong" answer here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2007, 06:06:01 PM »

By the way, I don't think there's a "right" or "wrong" answer here.

I agree.  Which is why I think it's a good topic for debate.

My main point (which I believe is Celtics) is that the "deadline" is before player extension offers go out, and "by sim 12" was more used to put a specific date on that deadline.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2007, 06:19:57 PM »

Well obviously, if that's the case, Celtics won't be a exception. The we should all exercise the same rights. I screwed up on Short's contract cause of the deadline. Wanted to buy him out but was short on time.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2007, 06:22:52 PM »

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Wanted to buy him out but was short on time.

Contract buyouts have no deadline....

This is what we're debating:
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2007, 06:24:19 PM »

No shit?!? Oh my God... Laughing

Thanks Bods!
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2007, 06:55:54 PM »

first of all, I agree with the hornets: the Pacers are doing an unbelievable good job on getting everything done on time. Props to that, I know how tough that can be.

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two things in their argumentation here i disagree upon:
about the rules: in my post here, i did not ask to bend the rules, ignore the rules or make yet another exception to gain an advantage. All I did is happily finding out that the playoffs had not started, no resign offers had been made public, so I bought a contract extension. I didn't check the rulebook for that since it had never been a problem before extending a player as long as the resign offers had not been sent out.

and about the workload: it's no extra work, processing the extension is exactly the same amount of work if it's done after sim 5, after sim 7 or after sim 12. Maybe it's a little more work getting Orlando's player offer on the resign offer page (*) , but c'mon, discussing this topic here already took ten times as much time.



(*) i do it differently in DJSL, for me it's the same work if it's 10 or 100 player offers i have to process, and if i had bods scripts and database tools i could probably finish that whole process in less than an hour. Maybe we should go back an share our knowledge ... Wink
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 07:23:46 AM »

so what's the commissioners final ruling on this request ?
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 11:32:26 AM »

about the rules: in my post here, i did not ask to bend the rules, ignore the rules or make yet another exception to gain an advantage. All I did is happily finding out that the playoffs had not started, no resign offers had been made public, so I bought a contract extension. I didn't check the rulebook for that since it had never been a problem before extending a player as long as the resign offers had not been sent out.

Not checking the rulebook on something is no different from ignoring the rules.

You asking for the commish to change a rule that you don't agree with is no different than asking the commish to make an exception.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 01:53:52 PM »

ok final word here from me:

i had several gms who send me pms or posted at the right time and get therefore their wishes.
even nuggets send me some messages to understand everything right. if you would be a newbie to this league or had an excuse for being late i would allow it.
but in my mind you are one of the better here and the only reason that you missed the deadline is because we didn´t handle the deadlines strict.
It would give you an unfair adavantage to other gms who took their time to get their exceptions in right in time, so for this season i won´t allow it.
we can discuss if we want to move the deadline for next season but we all started into the season with the same rules and in my mind this league is advanced far enough that we don´t have to change rules during the season.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 03:40:57 PM »

Not checking the rulebook on something is no different from ignoring the rules.

You asking for the commish to change a rule that you don't agree with is no different than asking the commish to make an exception.

again, i disagree. I don't ask to change the rule but use common sense to decide if me getting the exception in late VIOLATES what the rule was made to protect. And it does not ...


ok final word here from me:
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but in my mind you are one of the better here and the only reason that you missed the deadline is because we didn´t handle the deadlines strict.

and why DO we start handling it strict NOW ?

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It would give you an unfair adavantage to other gms who took their time to get their exceptions in right in time, so for this season i won´t allow it.
we can discuss if we want to move the deadline for next season but we all started into the season with the same rules and in my mind this league is advanced far enough that we don´t have to change rules during the season.

once again, i do not ask to change the rules but use a little common sense and sure instinct ... which is denied.

i see it like this: nobody would have been hurt or put at a disadvantage if this had been allowed. In fact, this ruling does give some advantage to every other GM since it takes roughly 8mill from my salary total and won't allow me to make any qualified FA bids to free agents of other teams.


so my final word:
I don't have to agree on the decision but i will accept it.
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(btw, whoever thought Orlando will hit the FA market now, forget it. Neither will Tyler, who i will accept now that my salary money has been taken. Sorry guys ...)
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