Title: Sixers/Pistons Post by: SixersGM on June 20, 2008, 10:55:18 PM Sixers Trades:
Keyon Montross Jorge Fowler 2027 Sixers' 1st rounder Pistons Trades: Evan Rosow Sixers' Accepts Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 20, 2008, 11:46:33 PM Sixers Trades: Keyon Montross Jorge Fowler 2027 Sixers' 1st rounder Pistons Trades: Evan Rosow Sixers' Accepts Pistons Accept... Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 20, 2008, 11:51:02 PM As good of a scorer as Rosow is I just don't like the idea of building around a "C" defender(especially after his D took a hit in TC)... Got the lotto pick(currently #7) I was looking for and Montross could turn into an OK role player...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: CelticsGM on June 21, 2008, 01:40:56 AM you realize you take on two equally horrible defenders (just without the offense) ... and that the pick could most likely drop out of the top 10 now the Sixers have what they were lacking most: a true go-to scorer.
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: SixersGM on June 21, 2008, 05:51:02 AM Well there are two reasons for the deal. First, i'm trying to maximize my available cap space next year. Second of all, Evan Rosow is a kind of guy we need. An efficient scorer. And by efficient, that means high FG% with low TO numbers.
For the Pistons' they got a promising player in Montross, shown by his ratings and A potential. And to seal the deal, we have my 1st rounder this year who is most probably lotto bound. I think it was a fair deal for both teams. Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: NetsGM on June 21, 2008, 03:01:12 PM I don't consider a guy like Montross an asset. There have been 6347 guys come into the league with C+ B offense that have never amounted to anything. So it's really just the pick (which I don't expect to be higher than 7th) for Rosow. Rosow might not be a complete player, and I don't 100% disagree with accepting offers for him, but you won't get a complete player at 7 either.
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 21, 2008, 03:42:36 PM This trade got messed up... I just noticed this was supposed to be this years 76ers 1st... That was the only reason I was gonna do this trade... That is why you never should have posted yet...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 21, 2008, 03:44:05 PM oops never mind... I got confused by the 76ers post, and should have checked before I posted LOL... Trade is good...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 21, 2008, 03:50:08 PM Triple post.... I really don't see how Rosow gets the pick out of the top 10... I guess I am a bit of a gambler as well as I always think there is a chance this becomes top 3 pick(gotta love the lotto)... But with my luck my pick will end #4 and the 76ers will be #11...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 21, 2008, 03:58:18 PM Quad Post(where is the edit button)...
you realize you take on two equally horrible defenders (just without the offense) ... and that the pick could most likely drop out of the top 10 now the Sixers have what they were lacking most: a true go-to scorer. I didn't see an offer from anyone else... And that was all I asked for, a lotto 1st... Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: RaptorsGM on June 21, 2008, 04:01:46 PM I don't consider a guy like Montross an asset. There have been 6347 guys come into the league with C+ B offense that have never amounted to anything. So it's really just the pick (which I don't expect to be higher than 7th) for Rosow. Rosow might not be a complete player, and I don't 100% disagree with accepting offers for him, but you won't get a complete player at 7 either. He's right I double checked Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: CelticsGM on June 21, 2008, 04:48:03 PM Triple post.... I really don't see how Rosow gets the pick out of the top 10... I guess I am a bit of a gambler as well as I always think there is a chance this becomes top 3 pick(gotta love the lotto)... But with my luck my pick will end #4 and the 76ers will be #11... The sixers gave two weak backups and got a starter capeable of scoring 20+ppg pretty easily (and he's replacing a 9ppg scorer who plays A defense only on occasions) you HONESTLY believe the Sixers got weaker here? Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 21, 2008, 07:49:32 PM Triple post.... I really don't see how Rosow gets the pick out of the top 10... I guess I am a bit of a gambler as well as I always think there is a chance this becomes top 3 pick(gotta love the lotto)... But with my luck my pick will end #4 and the 76ers will be #11... The sixers gave two weak backups and got a starter capeable of scoring 20+ppg pretty easily (and he's replacing a 9ppg scorer who plays A defense only on occasions) you HONESTLY believe the Sixers got weaker here? If you had such a hard-on for a SG that regularly gives up 30-40 point outbursts then maybe you should have sent a better offer... And just for further reference, Montross was just a contract to make the trade work... Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: CelticsGM on June 22, 2008, 01:46:42 AM i couldn't offer a pick, as you know, so since that was your main asking price I was out from the get-go
But even if nobody else makes a bid, going for a bad trade isn't the answer either. btw, in the past 4 sims (didn't look back any further) there was ONE guy scoring 30+ pts against Rosow: Isiah. And i'd say there were 3 more guys getting the better of Evan, MJ, Blue Edwards and Mitch Richmond. So giving up a 2nd year player that can outplay anyone else just isn't wise IMO. But that's just that, MO ... 8) Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: WizardsGM-old2 on June 22, 2008, 11:48:11 AM i couldn't offer a pick, as you know, so since that was your main asking price I was out from the get-go But even if nobody else makes a bid, going for a bad trade isn't the answer either. btw, in the past 4 sims (didn't look back any further) there was ONE guy scoring 30+ pts against Rosow: Isiah. And i'd say there were 3 more guys getting the better of Evan, MJ, Blue Edwards and Mitch Richmond. So giving up a 2nd year player that can outplay anyone else just isn't wise IMO. But that's just that, MO ... 8) btw, in the past 20 seasons (didn't look back any further) there were ZERO championships for the Celtics. And I'd say there were 28 other GM's I'd rather hear from. So giving out your unsolicited opinion 4-5 times per posted trade isn't wise IMO, but that's just that, MO... 8) Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Str8westcoasta on June 22, 2008, 12:27:40 PM I don't consider a guy like Montross an asset. There have been 6347 guys come into the league with C+ B offense that have never amounted to anything... Rickey Pierce!!! I thought that guy was gunna be awesome, he even got to B- B+ scoring at one point... Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: CelticsGM on June 22, 2008, 02:47:46 PM btw, in the past 20 seasons (didn't look back any further) there were ZERO championships for the Celtics. And I'd say there were 28 other GM's I'd rather hear from. fine.... not many give a shit discussing trades here, but i'd welcome some more opinions than from the 3 or 4 usual suspects. btw, nice that one of the least successful franchises in SSBA (missed playoffs for the past 6 seasons and counting) does NOT share his thoughts about the trade but rather criticizes those who do. Way to go, man. (you don't need to look it up, I DID make the playoffs in each of those 6 previous seasons ...) :lol2: Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: WizardsGM-old2 on June 22, 2008, 03:22:54 PM Hasn't been my franchise until this season, won't make them this year either, makes me 0-1. I point out your lack of championship success to illustrate the fact that you're clearly not as brilliant as you believe yourself to be. Until I've done some winning, I won't spend much time questioning peoples decisions. Neat idea eh?
According to you and the 3-4 replies to EVERY trade I've seen posted, nobody knows what they are doing but you. I can't think of the last time that I saw a trade go through without you demanding an explanation from one or both GM's, like somehow you're the most qualified person to assess the value another GM places on his player. When was the last time that somebody made a deal you thought wasn't insane, highway robbery, collusion or fishy? You're not giving your opinion, you're screaming for attention, and it makes my head hurt in ways that I find difficult to describe. I will, on occassion, voice my opinion on a trade. But most of the time I'm humble enough that I don't think I know all 28 other teams better than I know my own. I have enough trouble trying to get my team into the playoffs to worry about what the Pistons and Sixers are doing. The only deals you've made this season have been 3-4 minor ones with the same team, Orlando Magic. How 'bout instead of spouting off everytime another GM makes a trade you put some effort into trying to make a move or two yourself. Or is it simply that you don't have the creativity or the stones to pull off a deal some people won't agree with? Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: SonicsGM on June 22, 2008, 05:58:39 PM Personally, I think the Sixers get a steal here. Far too often, a very good offensive player is traded for pennies on the dollar because of a low defensive rating. I'm just sorry that I didn't have a pick to offer for Rosow!
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 22, 2008, 06:43:15 PM It's funny how there seems to be tons of interest in Rosow from everyone that didn't have a top 10 pick to trade... Let's not forget that he put up 20+ PPG on a team that has basically locked up the worst record in the league...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: PacersGM on June 23, 2008, 01:33:08 AM pistons has to cut a player.
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: SixersGM on June 23, 2008, 02:00:47 AM It will most probably be edgar artest.
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 23, 2008, 02:32:54 PM Shit... My bad... Yes, it is Edgar Artest... I will post it...
Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: NetsGM on June 23, 2008, 04:29:45 PM Quote Let's not forget that he put up 20+ PPG on a team that has basically locked up the worst record in the league... He also put up 22 ppg on a 48 win team. The fact that he's putting up numbers on a bad team isn't proof he can't put up numbers on a good team. Title: Re: Sixers/Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on June 23, 2008, 08:39:44 PM Quote Let's not forget that he put up 20+ PPG on a team that has basically locked up the worst record in the league... He also put up 22 ppg on a 48 win team. The fact that he's putting up numbers on a bad team isn't proof he can't put up numbers on a good team. Good luck building around Parker Archibald... I will repeat this one last time, "I will NOT rebuild around a player with C defense"... End of Story... |