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Title: Sim 1 done
Post by: PacersGM on February 13, 2008, 05:53:52 AM
pretty solid sim. really needed my depth. newcomb did an amazing job next to howard. he avg. over 20points 12 rebounds and 4 assists. he had a near triple double against the bulls (just missing it by 1 assist). Future is looking good in pacerland.

And the team with the best record so far is.... The HAWKS   :shock:
guess his PG is better than expected


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on February 13, 2008, 06:14:22 AM
6-3 is enough to sit atop the Division, so that's OK.

Went with Tobey as a non-option - with interesting but not convincing results: good overall production, but we seemed to lack some overall punch (Curry doesn't seem to have much of a scorer's mentality, avg'ing 10ppg despite good percentages and being second option - and of course, got killed on the other end).

Palacio and Milner are nice running mates, and timeless. Always amazed at the fits Fat Lever gives Milner - and not really a fan. 

Bennett is finding his way with the new mates, putting up nice numbers off the bench. Getting tons of burn thanks to Fleish's early foul troubles.



Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HawksGM on February 13, 2008, 06:40:51 AM
the record is a great start, but it was against 2 CPU controlled teams, 2 rebuilding teams and a team in the Heat who are still missing a few pieces.  I think that I am still a sub .500 ball club, but time will tell.  My 2 off-season pick-ups, LaFrentz and Whately are playing very impressively.  A+ handles couldn't just be there for show, and the scoring is just a shock consider Whatley's ratings.  My off-season was still a dissapoinment with the loss of Green but we shall move on.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: MagicGM on February 13, 2008, 07:08:05 AM
wasn't expecting this tpye of sim from KJ. But I'll think it anytime of the day


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 13, 2008, 07:47:23 AM
Whatley won't continue to shoot above 50%, but if the rest of his game fits so perfectly who cares. And I guess I have to eat some crow too. LaFrentz looks amazing early on. I still don't like him needing almost one shot per point, but it's hard to argue against 27ppg. Looks like a good signing indeed!

pretty solid sim. really needed my depth. newcomb did an amazing job next to howard. he avg. over 20points 12 rebounds and 4 assists. he had a near triple double against the bulls (just missing it by 1 assist). Future is looking good in pacerland.

what is truly AMAZING is the history of Newcomb.

Drafted by the Hornets in 2021 he was traded to the Pacers before his first TC (in case you wonder he has improved +5 net ratings since) together with THREE FIRST ROUNDERS (one Hornets, two Magic). It doesn't stop here. The Magic slipped badly despite Dwight, and the Pacers took Dumars at #9 with the first pick, and then traded Dumars and the other Magic first to the Magic for DWIGHT and AGUIRRE. So that's how they got the core from the last 2 title teams.

So let's read that once again: ROY HINSON WAS TRADED FOR DWIGHT HOWARD, JOHNNY NEWCOMB, MARK AGUIRRE and ANOTHER FIRST.
(I know it's not fair, but here's the comparison: Roy Hinson 5ppg, 12rpg, 3,4bpg , Mark+Dwight+Johnny 52ppg, 30rpg, 3bpg)

Sometimes life is amazing
 :cheers:

Read it all here:
http://forums.ssbabasketball.com/index.php?topic=6926.0
http://forums.ssbabasketball.com/index.php?topic=7214.0


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: SixersGM on February 13, 2008, 07:59:25 AM
My team reminds me of the present chicago bulls. Defensive oriented but is lost on offense, mainly because of their unorthodox backcourt and TOs! damn.. TOs..

Do we get GM points here for having a 1:1 team assists to TO ratio here?


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: BlazersGM on February 13, 2008, 08:34:05 AM
Nice 4-1 start. We suffered a tough loss vs Sixers, but the rest was all good. Zeke and Akeem are making the difference so far. Kersey is a really pleasant suprise. Drexler couldnt show up same offensive numbers as in pre season so O'Neill will be given another chance.

Lets continue this way.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 13, 2008, 08:50:33 AM
Pretty uneventful sim for my team. we might go 41-41 this season with a 33-8 home record and a 8-33 road record. boring ...


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
nvm. grumpy on a rainy morning


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:18:38 AM
This is basically what I was envisioning when I made some moves to remake the team -- shotblockers with no scoring ability at the 4/5 with scorers at the 1/2/3.
 
No way do I expect this much success going forward (+17 ppg differential?!), but this is a great start.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:20:21 AM
Hornets are doing great now, of course, but that's not the point. And we all know that it's not like you handed two titles to the Pacers here, it was not what you did wrong but what they did good.

But while I believe that deal wasn't one of your career highlights  (it's not like Hinson was on target to become any different than he is now, and I doubt thats worth 3 future firsts), it wasn't the Magic fault too. When they gave up on Dwight they already had waited a season too long and were deep in the lottery WITH Dwight. So they felt they had to sell him for 20cent on the dollar just to get anything for him before he retires.

And nobody could have forseen that Howard would play on and on and on and on and on. Season 19 now. I don't know how that happens since most big men retire age 34, 35 and after like 14-15 seasons maximum in FBB, but it did.

So sorry if my "funny interpretation" of the deal did hurt you, it wasnt meant to make you look like a bad GM. Your track record says the complete opposite ...
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: PacersGM on February 13, 2008, 09:33:28 AM
at the time the trade was made the picks looked pretty none lotto. i think it was 4 picks included in the trade. i did it at that time mainly because newcomb was bigger, had already the pot scoring plus and the A pot. no way the hornets could envision that the 2 magic picks would bring me dwight.
Hinson already was established as the next rex metha without the scoring ability. With sampson already on board it was the perfect move that gave him a title and the chance to have a dynasty for several years.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:37:04 AM
But while I believe that deal wasn't one of your career highlights  (it's not like Hinson was on target to become any different than he is now, and I doubt thats worth 3 future firsts), it wasn't the Magic fault too

Perhaps the reason that I have success is that I know the worth of players like Hinson.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:44:52 AM
I just looked it up: at the time of the trade Hinson had played one season, 5ppg, 8rpg, 2.4bpg with "career highs" of 11pts, 16reb, 7blk and ratings of C+ D+ D A- B B. There's a whole lot more missing to Mehta than just scoring.

And it's not like your Pacers ripped through the playoffs with Dwight either. In your first year you twice escaped a game 7 winning by 1 over Pistons in round 1 and by 2 over Hornets in the CF. So this whole thing easily could have been a 1st rd exit and Dwight retirement with no title as well.


Luck does play a big role in FBB, and good GM'ing can only take you so far here ...


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:48:28 AM
Perhaps the reason that I have success is that I know the worth of players like Hinson.

Perhaps you are a good GM?

Hinson would be a complete failure on 80% of the teams here. Like Ben Wallace in reality. Without the perfect team surrounding him he's useless. And you got that team around Roy (though I still believe the Sampson/Bol move was horrible)


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 09:48:42 AM
I just looked it up: at the time of the trade Hinson had played one season, 5ppg, 8rpg, 2.4bpg

...in 26 mpg.

Add to this that I was well aware of Newcomb's decent, but not mind-blowing, true potential, and the Magic's representations to me that Dwight would "retire a Magic," and second guessing the trade is idiotic. I would do it over and over again.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 10:21:52 AM
Man, what's with the Nuggets?


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on February 13, 2008, 10:25:32 AM
d'oh!

got tied up with work, and forgot to change my DC.  I had Ralph Sampson on the IL during sim1 :(


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: SpursGM-old on February 13, 2008, 10:26:25 AM
Back to the regularly scheduled sim 1 discussion...

4-2 sim with wins over the Nuggets (+31 - what happened?) and Warriors who I think are the biggest challengers in the west.  Both losses (each by 5) came in the first 3 days/games to Rockets and Jazz with the victory over the Nets by 18.

Nice 8.5 scoring differential and solid +6 rebounding.  Even in turnovers.  I seem to have a nice balance of team defense and team offense.  3 guys with 1 or more blocks.  4 guys with 1+ steals.  5th in opponent fg%.  Offensively 6 guys averaging over 10 points.  Leading the league in FTA.  My starting SG/SF combo averaging 44 pts, 14 reb, 2.8 stls and both are shooting over 50% from the floor.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on February 13, 2008, 10:32:05 AM
The good:
Evan Rosow is for real.  26.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.9 apg as a top option.  Pettit's still a great shooter, and should be good in limited time.  Munson's playing as well as ever (17.3 ppg, 12 rpg, 3.9 bpg).

The Bad: 2 of my 5 starters aren't my actual starters, but since I didn't get my DC in, they started by virtue of the preseason sim 2 dc.  My 28 ppg, 13.2 rpg, all-league first team center was on the IR, and my starting SF, blackman, was also on the bench.  Team subsequently went 3-6.  Whoops.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 13, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
Anyone else find that the team stats aren't sortable?


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on February 13, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
Anyone else find that the team stats aren't sortable?

Yeah.  When you go to output html, there's an option for sortable team stats.  Pacers must have accidentally unchecked that when he ran the sim.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: WizardsGM on February 13, 2008, 12:09:14 PM
Man, what's with the Nuggets?

I was totally planning not to post until you let the cat out of the bag. Ya, 1-5. Cliff Robinson is crap. I am not even using a fast pace and he still only plays under 23 minutes and is less effective than the big that is backing him up (Macauley)?? The Tyler trade couldnt come sooner.

Evans isnt the Evans of preseason and last year; ditto with Collins. For some reason Magic is leading the team in points. Who knows, DC changes are coming for sure.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: GrizzliesGM on February 13, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
My team is off to a 4-5 start. We are shooting very well but I don't expect that to last. Pippen and Hobson are off to a nice start. Lord is leading the league in assists but is killing me defensively.

I am going to experiment by starting Pippen at pg. Hopefully it works and i won't need to trade for a pg.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: MavsGM on February 13, 2008, 12:58:09 PM
My DC was mess up with Vince Keogan a backup but we still score 100 points.  Jordan Payton is the real deal, a triple double waiting to happen. 


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: SonicsGM on February 13, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
Which is worse:

1. My team blows

2. I traded my first round pick

3. My team blows & I traded my first round pick

????????????????


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: WizardsGM on February 13, 2008, 01:03:01 PM
Which is worse:

1. My team blows

2. I traded my first round pick

3. My team blows & I traded my first round pick

????????????????

I am leaning towards three, but it could be one depending on what you traded that pick for


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: Str8westcoasta on February 13, 2008, 02:30:37 PM
Nice, 5 - 2 for the Rockets..!

Zack Profit lead us in scoring as excpected, but he got a lot of help which is a huge boost.

 - Roy Tarpley is averaging 19.7ppg and 11.3rpg and is really starting to look like a leader on this team.

 - Shane Wedge is getting 15 and 8 to make it a very productive frontcourt.

 - Allen Coles is getting nearly 12ppg off the bench in only 20 minutes!

 - Adam Fortson is getting 7.1 REBOUNDS PER GAME at the SG spot and only 6'2"..!!!

 - Muggsy is dropping 11.7ppg and dishing out 9,3apg with 3.1spg.

Overall, we are shooting the ball well and playing good D. Sure we are still rebuilding, but long may this performance continue!!!


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: MavsGM on February 13, 2008, 04:33:17 PM
Some stats from the sim:

Phil Hubbard - is averaging 27ppg second in the league with almost 10 FTs a game.

Mark Wootten - got the first triple double of the season in the league with 14/14/10

Mike O'koren - is leading the league in minutes played with 45 minutes a game. :eek3:

Curtis Kennedy - rookie second round pick playing starter minutes with Payton out.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: GoldenStateGM on February 13, 2008, 10:16:00 PM
I am really disappointed in the Warriors...
After a 14-1 preseason 2, they come back 4-4, with Barton in the lineup...
Maybe Barton does not fit in this lineup...


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 14, 2008, 03:26:59 AM
I am really disappointed in the Warriors...
After a 14-1 preseason 2, they come back 4-4, with Barton in the lineup...
Maybe Barton does not fit in this lineup...

15-1 my friend, 15-1 preseason 2.

So you think inserting C+ defender Barton into the lineup and while getting +2ppg offensively also allowing the opponent to score +18ppg did influence your record negatively?





Good call !
 :lol2:



{Memo to Hornets: Look at my team. I have really nothing interesting this season BUT talking bout other teams ... ;-) }


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 14, 2008, 10:49:17 AM
4-4 first sim but forgot to get a DC in....things will improve sim 2.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: CelticsGM on February 14, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
then i feel even more proud you got your DC in over there
we had 29 posted DCs in DJSL today for the first time EVER in 18 season ...
:-)


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: WizardsGM on February 14, 2008, 12:26:37 PM
im surprised he got it in there too, he cant even get a draft list or free agency list in my retro league


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on February 14, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
im surprised he got it in there too, he cant even get a draft list or free agency list in my retro league

The raptors GM there is like the soup nazi.


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: SixersGM on February 14, 2008, 08:18:00 PM
our game is SLOW and DIRTY. And we don't allow any unnecessary PENETRATION..


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on February 14, 2008, 09:06:57 PM
im surprised he got it in there too, he cant even get a draft list or free agency list in my retro league

The raptors GM there is like the soup nazi.
:lol:


Title: Re: Sim 1 done
Post by: GoldenStateGM on February 14, 2008, 11:11:37 PM


15-1 my friend, 15-1 preseason 2.

So you think inserting C+ defender Barton into the lineup and while getting +2ppg offensively also allowing the opponent to score +18ppg did influence your record negatively?





Good call !
 :lol2:



{Memo to Hornets: Look at my team. I have really nothing interesting this season BUT talking bout other teams ... ;-) }

Lol... Well, I certainly did not my defense to improve...  but the offense should have.  All-league Barton and all...
Little did I know that Lester Connor makes a 16 ppg difference.