SSBA

okay we may have only 2 open teams since we could wait for trev but he missed last offseason and the whole season already and no one told me he will be back soon.
i have been asked by several gms if they can take one of the open teams. maybe that would improve the chance to get new gms in??

Keep them open until you find takers.
Are the openings posted on the FBB Forums?

I think the CPU should control them until we find takers.  I don't think somebody should get bailed out of the mess they created by switching teams.

It's always been CPU controlled.  I don't see why now should be any difference.

What should be the vote IMO is whether to allow trading with the CPU.

Only change I could see doing is having a committee make the draft picks.  The cpu doesn't scout the draft very well.   

Draft and resignings are the only things that could be comitteed IMO.  Like, say, have 4 people make draft lists.  Let's say it's for the 3rd pick.  I make my draft pick like:
Hakeem
Jordan
Stockton.

Hakeem would get a value of 3, Jordan a value of 2, and Stockton a value of 1.  Add up all the player scores from the 4 lists, and the draftee with the highest total gets the pick.

The only problem would be picking the teams in the committee.  i.e., last year if I picked for the Lakers it would be a conflict of interest.  Maybe the bottom 4 teams in the draft?

Should be teams out of the division as well.

it is still undecided imo.
i suggest that bods (no pick this year), Tom (no pick) and me make the best possible pick for the wolves and lakers.
i suggest we 3 send our choices to the other gms and i will pick the guy who gets the most points. for the wolves it should be pretty easy and since Lakers are also in the top 5 picking it shouldn´t be a problem to submit your top 5 guys.
If we let the cpu draft for them, the same scenario like last year could happen that after the top 5 you pick in fact 2 seeds higher. the cpu usually takes a guy who is decent but not worth a top 5 pick.
or do we have some new guys before the draft. if neccessary i would wait for them.

Oh no you won't. No, no, no. I want the same oportunity like the Pistons last year. We can make this decision AFTER this draft, but not now. No way.

Stockton may be a better player than Barkley.

One thing I think is great about SSBA is that we LEARN.  There have been mistakes made in how the league is run in the past, and there will be in the future.  For SSBA to get better we have to learn.  Last year we learned that allowing a CPU controlled team to draft is a nightmare.

He may be... That's why I have that quote in my sig -- those were my sentiments exactly.

LOL. That's a good one.


Couldn't care less about a GM-less team. It's the matter of principal. I want the same oportunity like you had last year (re: same standards for everyone).

I do.


You're out of your mind.  Rules change every year.  We learn every year.  This would not be the first time a rule has changed.  In fact, I think we should officially put it to vote.  Let the league decide.

I like the committee idea for resignings and the draft...

Really? How come commishes made the picks few years ago but allowed the CPU to make the pick last year?!


Hm...smells like a cheap demagogy. You said it yourself, you knew it all along that CPU is terrible at making a decisions. So why did you allow it to make the pick last year?

 

Yes. But after this draft. Not now.

Face it, without CPU you wouldn't be having a future all star PF and Hornets would've won a title without their dream PG. So, same scenarios & opportunity for everyone please.

As i said, this isn't even about player X or Y (since there's isn't a much diference beetwen a scrub like Ewing or scrub like Benjamin). It's the matter of principal.

Isn't that what this poll is about?

Not really.  This asks about the entire offseason (resignings, draft, fa).  The idea was brought up earlier in the thread about just draft/resignings having intervention.  I think it's a good idea and one that could be brought up for a vote.  The proposal I just made is a little more specific, so it's a little easier to vote on.  This one had virtually 0 turnout (7 GM's voted).

This completely contradicts:


That.

Yeah. TBH, I don't even remember how I voted on this poll. I was just playing a little devil's advocate.

darn lawyers ;)

damn, i just discovered that Ewing won't drop to my 2nd round pick, even if i'm entitled to pick for the whole 1st round. There goes my primary offseason plan ...
:-(

Haha. If Ivan pays me some SSBA $ I'll gladly be his advocate too.

Nice way to ignore all the relevant points & questions in my post. Just delete all the "ticklish" part and everything's fine.

Wasn't ignored at all.  I've answered them all. 

"same scenarios and opportunities for everyone" is bull, otherwise the league would never change, and never approve.


That's just wrong.  That's never been the rule.

It's good to see that I've been gone for 2 seasons yet the constant bickering between Bods and Ivan hasn't changed...

and another thing that hasn't changed is my complete inability to follow any of the asinine things you guys argue about  :bods:

Sure, sure. But you weren't worried much about "we want to ensure that the fate of the team is not decided by a computer's bad draft pick" when you had a lotto pick last year.

If it will help I'll trade the #26 pick for the #2 pick...then no one will complain about who the computer chooses.

 :bounce:

We've never been in that position until last year.  Like I said, rules are constantly being revised..  We didn't know the computer was going to be as pitiful as he was at drafting.

(BTW, this was a proposal from SpursGM, not me.  So I'm not sure how "you didn't care last year" is a valid argument).

That isn´t true. we knew how awful the cpu picks are. i remember that you even warned all gms not to let the cpu pick for them because cpu is really bad.
One reason that the lakers are so bad is imo that they wasted several top 5 picks because they never send a draft list.

maybe he had high hopes last year to get a good pick but the biggest winner by the cpu decision wasn´t the pistons. it was the heat without a doubt.

and i understand your point of view. but i have the same situation since i could pick a better guy at 9 if i allow cpu picks for this draft.
In fact i am for the commitee idea even if that means that i loose the chance to get a better player.
Only real problem could occur if we can´t find gms for these teams. several talented players would be out of the game and wasted imo.
Just look at magic for example who wasn´t used at all the last 2 seasons.

We knew it was bad.  We didn't know it was historically inept.  It's how bad it is that makes this necessary.

And yeah, the Heat and Hornets won a lot more than me by the CPU draft.  And this was proposed by SpursGM, not me.

The only thing i didn't want to comment that cause i didn't want to call anyone a liar.


Finally someone with a common sense. I mean, we should let some top talent to go wasted just because we might find a GM in the near future?! How stupid is that? This league is already in serious deficit of talent and now we should let some top prospects to rotten on a GM-less team? And this whole caring about future GM is nonsense. I mean, let say CPU make this year pick for the Wolves. We find a GM in the middle or at the beginning of the season, and what he's gonna say? "I don't want to be a GM cause CPU made a bad pick last offseason when i wasn't here?!" That's stupid. What kinda GM is that? Either you take the team or not, if you're right guy you'll step up to the challenge and take whatever a team is outhere.

This isn't about you, or the Hornets or the Heat. It's about the SYSTEM. If you, Hornets or the Heat (or the Rockets, Spurs, Celtics, Bulls whoever) had some extra oportunities last year then hey, I (and the rest of the league) wants to have those exact same oportunities. That's the point.

If its not about them, its not about YOU either. Get over yourself. The rule change is a great one for parity and fairness across the whole league and it looks like you are the only one who doesnt agree (big surprise, you dont agree to anything that makes sense).

Mr. Asslicker no one invited you in this thread.

Beat it.

Ah yes, I also failed to mention there isnt room for common sense in your little bubble world, and thus because I display common sense, I am a buttlicker.

I'm gunna say it... I agree with KingsGM!...

That's really, really weak.

You weren't here for some time. Anytime i have a debate with Bods NuggsGM contributes nothing except coming personaly after me. So i'm pretty much sick of his buttlicking and lame provocations.

There are 6-2 votes in my favor so far. Before you speak about common sense, learn how to count cause it seems your common sense is in minority here.

What I say to you has nothing to do with Bods. If you were spouting your rediculous thoughts at a hole in the wall I would still say the same things.

This is a shitty situation.

Read the sticked thread. 9 votes in favour, 1 against.

In hindsight, we probably should have taken some remedial action when the CPU picked Bowie. I should have spoken up at that time, but greed got in the way I think.

Could someone clue me in on what happened with this Bowie situation?

Still man, "Mr.Asslicker" sounds like something my sister would have called me when she was 2. If you need some help with some good, full english insults just let me know   :cheers:

CPU picked Bowie ahead of MJ, Barkley, Stockton, etc

And then CPU decided to trade Bowie for 70 cents on the dollar

It was bigger then Watergate.

The CPU-run Lakers had the second pick in the draft, and picked Sam Bowie when Jordan, Barkley and Stockton were still on the board. The CPU then traded Bowie to the Spurs for some relatively average players (which turned out not to be such a bad trade b/c Bowie stinks, but there was a fairly large uproar at the time regarding trades w/ the CPU).

Wow, that is horseshit...things like that def take away from the "realism" from the league.


I voted to draft by committee.

Not only that. It gave a oportunity to Bods to get a great future PF (and we all know how hard they come) in Barkley and Hornets a great PG in Stockton, a guy who was essential in his title run (cause he had no PG whatsoever at that time).

In short, it changed the entire landscape of the league.

Well, considering Bowie was drafted in front of those 3 in real life, maybe not  :)

I put in the text below the Kings avator into an online english/croation translator and got:
"Jebacu you mother ak we does not plebiscitary title." I had to look up "plebiscitary," which got me "Of or pertaining to plebiscite."

I have no idea what that means, but it can't be good.

 :lol:

Jebacu - verb of jebati which means "i'll fu*k"
vam - your
majke - mothers
ako - if
mi - to me
ne donesete - don't bring
naslov - the title.

Full translation - "I'll fu*k your mothers if you don't bring me the title". Needless to say, it's being adressed to my players.  :lol:

haha, looks like I need to find a better english-croatian translator

I like first 3 ideas equally....

CPU run, nothing against it.

Other GMs take over, like that too altough it has 1 bad thing,
 depends which GM would take over.

Run 3 teams by commitee maybe is best idea actually.

and a big and definite NO to last proposal. We could wait for a
week or two.

I'm not very attentive. I didn't realize that I was even mentionned in the options up until this very moment, and didn't realize that Milner was MVP until last night....the one thing that I did notice (last night, of course) was that Bennett got hosed in the 6MOY race - maybe it was because he missed some games - but he had a much nicer year and did it in 4 fewer minutes.

Posted about the vacancies in my league in case any are interested. Posted Bods' email address and league website. No promises, most of the active ones are already here.