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« on: April 17, 2005, 07:07:25 PM »

This is an extension to the Warriors-Grizz trade. 3-ways are not allowed, so we broke it down. Therefore, the 60 Day rule is lifted.

Warriors Trade:

Luol Deng
Bonzi Wells
Mark Jackson
Robert Horry
Warriors 2009 First Round DP.

Raptors Trade:

Vince Carter
Nolan Johnson
2007 Rockets First Round DP.
2007 Raptors First Round DP.

Raptors will be cutting Pape Sow and Clarence Weatherspoon to make this work.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 07:08:59 PM »

Warriors agree to this trade...
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 07:11:41 PM »

for second i was thinkin that goldenstateGM lost his mind with that memphis trade, givin up JR and Big Ben for Gasol, but this is much better. VC/Gasol is pretty good combo
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 07:13:11 PM »

Well, some might question this move. First, let me tell you the trade that I thought I had completed was for Jamal Crawford and expiring from the Knicks. I also had a trade that might have worked with the Magic for Rashard Lewis. Reason I do this trade over them:

Deng B- B C- A- C B
Craw C+ B+ B A- D+ B
Shard B- A- C A- C C

As you can see, Deng is very, very close to these players, but still on his rookie contract.

Alot of you probably felt that you had better offers, but I had to get a guy that can play SG, and Deng can do that, while some of the others cannot. I'm looking to sign a PF/C this offseason, and therefore I will probably move Boozer to SF, and Deng to SG.

I now have Mihm, Boozer, Deng, Ellis as 4/5ths of my starting lineup for next year, locked up...and because of this trade I have $22,296,796 in cap space. That's the bottom line.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 07:15:26 PM »

Warriors, I just edited the trade because I forgot the 07 First, and the swap of 08 firsts. Please accept again to show that this is ok.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 07:18:12 PM »

Still good for me...  Agreed...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 07:24:19 PM »

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Also, The Warriors and I have worked out a clause that I will get the better of our 2 2008 picks. We will remember this (I'm putting it in my signature).


You can't do this.  I stated this very clearly that conditions cannot be put on picks.  I even made it an announcement.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 07:26:03 PM »

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Also, The Warriors and I have worked out a clause that I will get the better of our 2 2008 picks. We will remember this (I'm putting it in my signature).


You can't do this.  I stated this very clearly that conditions cannot be put on picks.  I even made it an announcement.


Ok, fine, we won't. What we will do, come 2008, is trade our 2008 firsts straight up if he has the better one.

Bottom line: You don't have to put it into the program, that's why it is in my  signature to remember.

This is within the rules. It will be a seperate trade as far as everyone is concerned.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 07:31:35 PM »

I will block that trade if it happens.

Seriously, we're not doing that.  It's a bookkeeping nightmare, and it leads to future problems.  We found this out the last draft twan ran.

No conditions on future picks.  Period.  That's my rule, and I made it abundantly clear.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2005, 07:33:10 PM »

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I will block that trade if it happens.

Seriously, we're not doing that.  It's a bookkeeping nightmare, and it leads to future problems.  We found this out the last draft twan ran.

No conditions on future picks.  Period.  That's my rule, and I made it abundantly clear.


Wow, that sucks large.

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Just got this reminder from one of the trades I just got.

You can't lotto protect picks. Just like you can't trade "future picks" (without specifying when the picks will come). You either trade a pick or you don't, we're not keeping track of owed picks and conditions. If I can't enter it into the program at the time of the trade it's not a part of the trade.


I guess it does say that though.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2005, 07:37:58 PM »

Since I've pretty much lost interest in the 76ers game I'll post here.

I won't allow it because it's an absolutely terrible precedent.  One I don't want to set.  

Sure, keeping track of this one thing is easy enough.  We should be able to do it.  But future ones will not be.  IF I allow one person to set conditions, then it's hard for me to not allow others.

Then you'll have people who have acquired a "future" first round pick.  But since that hasn't been dispensed yet, it will completely throw off the 2 first round pick rule.

Or you'll have people fail to pay up.  Only way out of that is to report everything to me.  Which would be the biggest bitch in the history of ssba to keep track of all conditions on draft picks.  Something that would surely lead to mistakes.

Confusion on what draft picks could be traded.

Nope, we're not going there.  Sorry.  It's been that way since I've been commish, and I just re-emphasized that a few days ago.  Any confusion and you should have asked me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 07:41:18 PM »

We came to another agreement, and your statement is sound and duly noted, dabods...  Sorry for the difficulty...
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 07:41:39 PM »

I don't disagree with you, and there was no confusion - both of us thought this would be ok.

What I would rahter see is Gm's responsible for the "future picks", and be responsible to notify you avout them when need be.

But this way is fine too. Warriors and I have changed the deal again. Warriors, please say you accept again.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2005, 07:43:07 PM »

I accept the deal with the 2007 and 2009 pick exchange...
We are good to go.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2005, 07:43:42 PM »

Finally Smile

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