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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2005, 10:06:24 PM »

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Ellis was a better all around player.


If by all-around you mean "without a position", sure.

Ellis:
B-   B-   B   B   C   B
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Mason better in :
outside shooting, ballhandling and defense.
Ellis better in:
inside scoring and rebounding.

Mason was better at all the key pg categories.  Inside scoring and rebounding are teh 2 most worthless positions in pg's
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« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2005, 10:07:56 PM »

Yeah, but Ellis has no major weaknesses, and has triple-double potential.

My team scores inside the paint. I don't take outside shots. Ellis is a much better rebounder, and inside scorer. I took a risk, and next year, it might pay off.
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« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2005, 10:08:58 PM »

He is the midget version of Shannon Brown. In fact, those were his exact ratings, if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2005, 10:10:28 PM »

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My team scores inside the paint. I don't take outside shots


Which is why you want maximum range from your pg.

IF you pf and center score in the paint, your pg won't have driving room.  Having a pg with a 3 pt shot prevents them from doubling in the paint, and makes you pay for doubling bigs.
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« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2005, 10:18:05 PM »

the new draft class is up....i guess i should start looking at it
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« Reply #95 on: April 06, 2005, 10:23:08 PM »

Hawks, Tanner could still turn out to be a very very good player.  B potential still means he could go up.

And Raptors, I still can't believe Mercer went crazy either.  Do you guys think Mercer being from Chicago had anything to do with it?  Maybe being from the hometown does make a difference...
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« Reply #96 on: April 06, 2005, 10:25:31 PM »

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Hawks, Tanner could still turn out to be a very very good player.  B potential still means he could go up.

And Raptors, I still can't believe Mercer went crazy either.  Do you guys think Mercer being from Chicago had anything to do with it?  Maybe being from the hometown does make a difference...


Tanner is from Atlanta, and yea he is still going to be very good but probably not going to be the dominant Shaq-like force I was hoping for
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« Reply #97 on: April 06, 2005, 10:25:55 PM »

yes, draft and potential fa's are both up.
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« Reply #98 on: April 06, 2005, 10:28:19 PM »

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Hawks, Tanner could still turn out to be a very very good player.  B potential still means he could go up.

And Raptors, I still can't believe Mercer went crazy either.  Do you guys think Mercer being from Chicago had anything to do with it?  Maybe being from the hometown does make a difference...


Tanner is from Atlanta, and yea he is still going to be very good but probably not going to be the dominant Shaq-like force I was hoping for


Well that throws my theory out the window.
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« Reply #99 on: April 06, 2005, 10:30:11 PM »

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Well that throws my theory out the window.


Lol, maybe not, but it definitely doesn't help you prove much, although his D did go up to an A giving me a very very good defensive frontcourt w/Tanner and Strom
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« Reply #100 on: April 06, 2005, 11:00:49 PM »

Just lookin at some of my former players, Chandler and Gordan had good TC's.  The Clippers have very good core.
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« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2005, 02:51:29 AM »

after i check all my players i am not sure if i had a good TC.
i hoped one of my starters would really improve .
i guess the stats of last year also had some influence in the TC.
Pietrus was insane.
he went up all over the ratings(inside, outside and def) and still kept his Pot.
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« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2005, 06:06:10 AM »

Etan Thomas  B- C- D+ A- B+ B = +1 Reb, +1 Pot
Amare Stoudemire  A- C- C- A B- B = -1 Hand +1 Def -1 Pot
Danny Fortson  B- C D- C+ A- B = +1 Pot
Kenny Thomas  B- C- C- C+ B B = -1 Inside +1 Pot
Rasheed Wallace B- B C- B+ C C = -1 Def
Wally Szczerbiak  C B D+ B- C C = -1 Inside -1 Hand +1 Pot
Jarvis Hayes  C B- C B- C- C = +1 Def
Gilbert Arenas  B B+ C+ A- C- B = No Change
Erick Strickland  C A- C B- C- C = -1 Def +1 Pot
Tyronn Lue  C B+ B C D C = -1 Pot
Mikel Chamberlain  D+ C+ A- C C- B = -1 Outside +1 Hand

I'm not that pleased with my TC. Amare didn't improve that much and Arenas didn't change at all. Etan Thomas had a great TC though, he's pretty much my only bright spot.
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« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2005, 06:51:58 AM »

Nets sent my my previous file so I could compare.

Mihm wnt up +1 in rebounding.

Ostertag went -1 in handling.

Ervin Johnson went -1 inside, -1 handling, -1 defense. Terrible TC for him.

Boozer went +1 inside, but lost -1 potential.

Rodnet Rogers went -1 outside AND -1 potential. Very bad.

Nachbar also -1 outside shot.

Wow. Vince. -1 outside, -1 handling. +1 potential, but still. I don't want to see a 27 year old lose ratings.

Lorenzen Ellis gained +1 inside, +1 outside, but -1 handling. He is going to be my SG next year when Finley leaves.
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« Reply #104 on: April 07, 2005, 06:54:06 AM »

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the new draft class is up....i guess i should start looking at it


Weak class.
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