Celtics / Hawks trade

[CelticsGM]

No.  You're still trading something you don't have, and now you've put it up in the league's court to keep track of and enforce future considerations.

wrong.

I have no idea why you assume anyone here wants the league to track/enforce any future considerations. IF we had posted that part BEFORE the Hawks even knew they would get any money, maybe. But we didn't.

We waited until the money was there, and all we have done is post a deal based on a PAST AGREEMENT, not on some considerations.
WE, the two GMs involved, took care of a matter that the league has zero obligation in tracking.

So if you want to void a deal, go back to the original one since it was apparently including future considerations in your view. And if you think we violated a rule not including the money right away (*) then I would ask for a fine as well. I acted fully believing I would not do anything wrong, and I have the PMs to prove it (before someone accuses me of saying "hey you got Hakeem, would be nice if you get me an extra $100 for that luck since it was me making that possible" after FA), but if I/we did violate a rule then do something, take a first round pick from us or so.

Hope that can satisfy the league ...



(*) I remember reading somewhere that you can spend money you have rightfully earned even if it doesn't show up on your account already, but I'm not sure of anything here anymore.

[NetsGM]

We waited until the money was there, and all we have done is post a deal based on a PAST AGREEMENT, not on some considerations.

I don't know why you're not getting this.

When you agreed on it IN THE PAST, there were future considerations.

"the two GM's taking care of it" is ignoring half of my original point, which is the possibility of a GM getting screwed on future consideration.  (Again, a past trade that included future considerations, the money).  It's not just about the league tracking it, it's about the league tracking it and the possibility of a GM getting screwed.

Sorry, the "you can't include future considerations in a trade" has been in place since the league started.  Stop trying to find ways to circumvent the rules.

[NetsGM]

I remember reading somewhere that you can spend money you have rightfully earned even if it doesn't show up on your account already, but I'm not sure of anything here anymore.

Your trade with the Hawks was made during round 2 of the draft.  Therefore, he had not yet earned any money that was just waiting to be awarded, because FA hadn't yet been run.

[CelticsGM]

the Hawks just had to get an FA offer in to complete perfect attendance, and they did it (if not before) as soon as they had the cap space with our trade.

but as we've discussed, I accept your decision ... so case closed

[CelticsGM]

now can you please delete or move this topic from the list of current trades?

it is no current trade ... and it won't be a future trade as well, not even with some picks added as return value. I was told that every (future) deal i get with the Hawks would be another attempt to circumvent the rules ... and so I will abstain from the trade agreement I had made with the Hawks.

thank you.