How could the Jazz ...

[CelticsGM]

I'd be against abandoning the hard cap. It's a great addition to the gameplay ... and it enables more player movement, less max contracts, and simply put: less dynasties and more teams able to joint the top playing their cards right.

It's probably not perfect, but necessary.

As for the violations: the two main offenders IMHO are Jazz and Bucks. THEY ignored the cap and THEY should receive the beating, not the commish or the rest of the league. Mistakes do happen, but these teams made TWO: going over the cap AND going even MORE over the cap.

I mean it's not very easy to exceed the hard cap, to have to pretty much ignore it. Many personal decisions are based on it, it's often talked about, so its hard not to be aware of your salaries.

heck if i didn't create a table i wouldn't even have recognised myself, but the red coloring told me something is seriously wrong (thanks EXCEL and the conditional formatting option for that)


An idea:
Why not cut the players after FA and offer them to the worst teams (last season). Ont thread per player, one or two days time to post, and the team inquiring with the worst record get's the signing rights.

[NetsGM]

An idea:
Why not cut the players after FA and offer them to the worst teams (last season). Ont thread per player, one or two days time to post, and the team inquiring with the worst record get's the signing rights.

No.  There's the lottery to help teams rebuild.  We're not handing them free agents as well.

[CelticsGM]

I agree, bods, I think both teams pretty much didn't pay attention, and neither did anyone else.
but they are still "guilty" as long as we enforce the rule.

The Bucks just had 2.3 mill to the cap before day 1, so they should neither have offered MLE and bigger resign deals in the first place.
The Jazz moved over the cap with their 2ND ROUND PICK signing  so should not have offered at all.


But allowing the hard cap offenders to keep AND to play these signings send the wrong signals to the league, too ...

[GrizzliesGM]

The players those teams signed after they went over the hard cap should be placed back into the fa pool. Its the only way to do it that makes sense.

[WizardsGM]

I'm in favour of having a designated person (Raps) willing to monitor team salaries and notify Pacers of any issues.

[CelticsGM]

ok, after thinking it over, here's my final wish what should happen:

The Jazz got their (unfair, cause already over the cap) signing on FA day 1. Since there was another sim since the lucked out.
The Bucks got their "violation-signing" on day 2, and I - we - found out just after FA results had been posted. I posted, and Jackson should be cut back to FA before the next sim.

Nobody could have protested that signing before it happened, and it was done immediately thereafter.



(if you really think that puts half of the league at a disadvantage, let's try this: the teams at a disadvantage, because "they have no MLE anymore" (as Bods had posted), are Warriors, knicks, Sonics, and Spurs. To make it fair I would give these 4 teams - maybe the commish remembers if these 4 teams even put bids in for Royal - the option of putting THEIR MLE free agent back to the FA pool as well, so they can enter the Royal Jackson sweepstakes. OK, that's ridiculous, I know ...  )

[HornetsGM]

Royal Jackson may lack skill, but he sure draws a lot of women to games. I can see why he's so coveted. Bucks will sell 100 more season tickets with him just riding the bench.

[SonicsGM]

You can take the Sonics off that list...I didn't offer him the MLE (offered it to five other players)

[CelticsGM]

Still would have been nice if the commish made a decision on that matter.

I know he's not always on the same page with bods, he has decided certain matters differently before, so we still no clue what's going to happen here ... and if anyone be allowed to bid for Royal (and maybe Shireman)

[NetsGM]

I think Celtics brought up a very good point, which is the problem with putting Shireman back into the FA pool after an entire day of FA was run.  Too much has happened league wide since that mistake happened to be able to do that now.

And considering that there were two mistakes, found out at the same time, the thought of arbitrarily allowing one team to retain their FA and another not to isn't something I think is a good decision.

This is simply something we're going to have to do a better job of in the future.  This is the commish's responsibility, and our fault it happened (both pacers and I), not the Bucks or Jazz.  Since Pacers is taking the brunt of the time running the sim, I'm going to make it my responsibility to check the  salaries page after every sim and keep that up to date..  It is our job to enforce the rules, and we need to do a better job of it going forward.  If we make a mistake, I don't believe in placing players back in free agent pools.  The precedence was set back in the 2nd or 3rd season of SSBA with shaq-gate, and it's not one I believe should be overturned.

Neither Shireman or Jackson are free agents.

[CelticsGM]

well, finally we can move on ...

[WizardsGM]

Its always nice to have someone who posts a ruling.

[ClippersGM-old]

Hehe... and I wanted those guys so badly on my team...











ps: ... to hand out towles and waterbottles.

[SonicsGM]

Yeah...Shaq-Gate....that was awesome.  

[ClippersGM-old]

Yeah...Shaq-Gate....that was awesome. 

I don't even remember that one.