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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 08:55:18 PM »

after 14 seasons...one hall of famer  Very Happy
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2007, 02:32:08 AM »

you have to throw Emeka in there as well

Ditto to that. Two guys who propelled the Nets' dynasty run. Very Happy

STATS+WINS=HOF
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2007, 02:38:02 AM »

Can't belive no one mentioned Tim Duncan yet. That guy was a total beast.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2007, 10:59:12 AM »

So was Hoffa.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2007, 11:18:04 AM »

after 14 seasons...one hall of famer  Very Happy

Well most of the great ones were already into their careers when the league started, so its not hard to believe. With the way FBB assigns Hall of Fame points, longevity is just as important as statistical greatness. I assume you may see more from this point on, as people play out 15yr careers and what-have-you.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2007, 11:23:52 AM »

Yeah.  Once some of these great guys (who were drafted into the league) retire, you'll see more.  The greats when the league started (KG, Dirk, TD, etc) just didn't play long enough for FBB to recognize them.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2007, 11:35:19 AM »

Who, how were these first players created?
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2007, 04:54:01 PM »

Btw, can we agree that no player who ever played on the KINGS (or Celtics for that matter) during the prime of his career can be considered HOF worthy ? Since team success should factor in, that'll be the elimination criteria ...

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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2007, 04:59:03 PM »

Yeah.  Once some of these great guys (who were drafted into the league) retire, you'll see more.  The greats when the league started (KG, Dirk, TD, etc) just didn't play long enough for FBB to recognize them.

Idkn, but i believe some players deserve HOF. I think FBB is too strict on that, just one example (from DJSL tough), LeBron didnt make it, he never won a ring, but he scored 29.000 points, and won many awards except he didnt win the ring. He is 1st on all time list in scoring, so i really dont understand FBB. 29.000 career points scored is not enough for HOF ?? Thats stupid IMO. Only few players in real life went over 30.000 (MJ, Karl, Wilt, Kareem and ?). I guess if some guy named XY average 15.7ppg 7.2rpg and 4.9apg during his career and made some 17.543 points, 6543 rebounds etc. but he was member of a team that won 2 rings will get in HOF instead of guys who played 15 seasons, scored 28.000 pts, 8000 rbs but won nothing except few POTW, POTM, All-League 1st, etc. awards.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2007, 05:05:45 PM »

lol, once again, FBB doesn't DECIDE who's HOF-worthy, but rather awards points for certain achievements. During a player's career these points are summed up and upon retirement he needs 25.000 of those points to go to the HOF.

If you're interested, look what you get HOF-points for (and it's absolutely ok to crack a smile here):

1250 ... 3-Point Shootout Champion
1250 ... Slam-Dunk Contest Champion

1000 ... Most Valuable Player
1000 ... Defensive Player of the Year
1000 ... Rookie of the Year
750 ... All-Star Game MVP
500 ... All-Star Game Participant
500 ... All-Star Rookie Game Participant
500 ... Rookie Game MVP
500 ... All-League First Team
500 ... All-Defensive Team
500 ... All-Rookie Team
500 ... Sixth Man of the Year
500 ... Champion
500 ... Playoff MVP
250 ... All-League Second Team
250 ... All-Defensive Second Team
250 ... All-Rookie Second Team
250 ... 3-Point Shootout Participant
250 ... Slam-Dunk Contest Participant
125 ... All-League Third Team
100 ... Player of the month
100 ... Rookie of the month
10 ... Player of the week
0 ... Player of the game

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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2007, 05:16:28 PM »

Yeah.  Once some of these great guys (who were drafted into the league) retire, you'll see more.  The greats when the league started (KG, Dirk, TD, etc) just didn't play long enough for FBB to recognize them.

correct me if i'm wrong, but the original league file SSBA started with should have HOF points for veterans already.
at least, when you start a new league in FBB with the default league file - and the 2003 season - these are the top 20 players when it comes to HOF points:

CareerPoints ... Name, Age - Experience
42670 ... Karl Malone, 40 - 18 yrs
27128 ... Scottie Pippen, 38 - 16 yrs
26563 ... Gary Payton, 35 - 13 yrs
25915 ... Mark Jackson, 38 - 18 yrs
25733 ... Reggie Miller, 38 - 16 yrs
25206 ... Shaquille O'Neal, 31 - 11 yrs
22592 ... Horace Grant, 38 - 16 yrs
21509 ... Dikembe Mutombo, 37 - 13 yrs
21001 ... Vlade Divac, 35 - 14 yrs
19041 ... Shawn Kemp{Retired}, 33 - 14 yrs
17766 ... Clifford Robinson, 36 - 14 yrs
17707 ... Jason Kidd, 30 - 10 yrs
17488 ... Kevin Garnett, 27 - 8 yrs
17102 ... Chris Webber, 30 - 10 yrs
16772 ... Glen Rice{Retired}, 36 - 14 yrs
16443 ... Anthony Mason{Retired}, 36 - 13 yrs
15688 ... Derrick Coleman, 36 - 13 yrs
15071 ... Kenny Anderson, 33 - 14 yrs
15018 ... Alonzo Mourning{Retired}, 33 - 11 yrs
14810 ... Avery Johnson, 38 - 18 yrs

so the top 6 are HOF worthy already ...
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2007, 05:17:40 PM »

that scoring's ridiculous.  Particularly the highlighted all-star weekend winners.  Dunk champ gets more than league or playoff MVP.  Absurd.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2007, 05:19:57 PM »

Btw, can we agree that no player who ever played on the KINGS (or Celtics for that matter) during the prime of his career can be considered HOF worthy ? Since team success should factor in, that'll be the elimination criteria ...

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What? Tracy Mcgrady is probably a top 2 SG (top 3 if you consider Marion a SG) of all time. 4 times WCF's, 3 times one game short of the Finals. I haven't won a title with him, but he's definitely a top HOF candidate, at least for NBA standards. Same can be said for Hoffa who was at his prime while he was on my team.
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2007, 05:30:15 PM »

@ Ivan
but aren't the Kings a synonym for failure? that should be taken into account, such (supposedly) great players not being able lift Sacto at least into the SSBA finals ..

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It's completely ridiculous. It took me a few seasons to assemble that list, identify all these pointly "gratifications", but unfortunately that's what it is. Probably a heavyreign joke ...
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2007, 05:57:27 PM »

Assembling a quick Top 10 list, I would pick:
Yao Ming
Garrett Petit
Emeka Okafor
Shawn Marion
Dirk Nowitzki
Dwight Howard
Richard Milner
Tim Duncan
Ben Gordon
Kevin Garnett

Here's a true champion I throw in there, Antonio Daniels, I think Bods and Jazz both had him for winning stretches, winning followed that guy despite his mediocre ratings.  I don't think he's top 10 material but definitely a winner.  Unlike KG and Dwight on my list.  Most of us probably don't remember Antonio but I know I do.
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