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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2007, 12:24:25 PM »



When? Oh, right, when he was surrounded with the right team. Go figure

Right team? Oh you mean 2 chuckers as Sam Cassell and Big Dog, on a team that was alergic to defense? But still, that was enough to be 1 game shy of the finals.

Apparently, here, in order for you star to be succesfull you got to have frontcourt that combines 18bpg and 72rpg, with couple of A+ or A (at least) defenders around him. And probably a SG or SF that shoots 65% from the arc.

Yes you are exactly right, because last year's Sixers and Blazers (the two finalists) definitely had all of those pre-requisites. Your arguments never have any factual proof. Grow up.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2007, 12:25:56 PM »



Why make an answer that you will look right past and only reply to something that fits what you want to hear?

What answer?

I ask you, what is your record with your top picks, and your top player Buck Williams?

It is completely irelevant what's mine record with Magic cause it's pretty obvious how i feel about it and second, this has nothing to do with some childish piss match about who's a better team and things like that.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2007, 12:26:10 PM »



So the real life Ray Allen sucks major donkey balls, apparently.

No comparision whatsoever. Ray Allen proved he can be a star on a winning team. Davis did not.

When? Oh, right, when he was surrounded with the right team. Go figure


rofl.  nice one.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2007, 12:27:00 PM »



Why make an answer that you will look right past and only reply to something that fits what you want to hear?

It is completely irelevant what's mine record with Magic cause it's pretty obvious how i feel about it and second, this has nothing to do with some childish piss match about who's a better team and things like that.

No, it has to do with the childish piss match about "my team's not good enough and I need to find someone to blame".
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2007, 12:29:24 PM »


Ah, 2 boyfriends, Nuggets and PistonsGM "owning" boys around.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2007, 12:56:16 PM »

btw, if MJ averaged 28ppg in his rookie season, he would end up with 45ppg in his prime. Unfortunately FBB is built that way, you can't create guys that are good early on and stay that way, it's either "improving until superstar status" or it's "great early and then declining"

FBB sucks in regards to player development options ...
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2007, 01:07:38 PM »


This looks like a pretty fair set of ratings for the pre-draft Jordan. He was never much of an outside shooter early on, and everything else for a draft prospect (who knows with his potential since its randomized) looks fantastic to me.

No, you miss the point. There's nothing wrong with his ratings, they're great. But just like DrJ here for example, i'm almost positive it will have no impact on the game whatsoever.
Naw, I don't think I did -  my experience is that - with guys *that* good - you can get those numbers by mucking around with settings -  which will eventually lead to wins. Find some other players who excel in similar settings and voila.
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2007, 01:11:35 PM »

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Yes.  Yes it does.
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2007, 01:47:55 PM »

Naw, I don't think I did -  my experience is that - with guys *that* good - you can get those numbers by mucking around with settings -  which will eventually lead to wins. Find some other players who excel in similar settings and voila.

Now if you think it is easy to have a losing team with Bird & Magic, think again. It's hard work, determination ... and complete ignorance of how teams (in sim leagues and in reality) have to be built. And you need time and time to find the right game settings ... and ignore them as well.

As i said, it's almost impossible to do (losing with Bird and Magic) but as we have to find out, it can be accomplished.
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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2007, 02:41:08 PM »

If you want to win a championship, go with old geezers. The Pacers are proving the effectiveness of that strategy right now, as are the Celts. Blazers did it last last year with Yao and a shell of a team. Ivan has a point, insofar as the point he is making is that the drafts have been weak.
That said, there is nothing to complain about this year's draft, and eventually things will even out as all of the stars of yore have retired.
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2007, 02:50:30 PM »

Arguing that drafts have been weak has never been my sticking point with Kings.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2007, 03:05:09 PM »

now wait a moment. Veterans win more? Rookies and Soph's lose more?

DAMN, that's big news to me, i have never seen that in my life before. Must be unique to SSBA, or probably the sim universe, since in the NBA it's usually the kiddy teams running away with the hardware, right ?


I just hope the original guys from the league start are gone soon, then we can all have an easier life ...
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2007, 03:43:26 PM »

If you want to win a championship, go with old geezers. The Pacers are proving the effectiveness of that strategy right now, as are the Celts. Blazers did it last last year with Yao and a shell of a team. Ivan has a point, insofar as the point he is making is that the drafts have been weak.


EXACTLY!

I've said the very same thing numerous times. Look at the conf leading teams! Pacers led by Lebron, Mavs have Emeka and Blazers won the title last year cause of 35 year old Yao Ming!! Is that a coincidence? Isn't that a shame? What kind of a league is that when the main players are 35 year olds? Where is the next generation?! Seriously, Pacers don't get me wrong, but this team of yours wouldn't have made the playoffs 7-8 years ago, let alone dominating. Nor would the Blazers won the title, no way! There's a huge, huge decline as far as overall quaility of the league is concerned, the entire league looks like a gigantic Eastern conference of the real NBA and as far as i'm concerned only a blind man can't see that. And that's all beacuse 90% of the drafties during the last 6-7 years have no impact on the game and are total underachievers.

For example, i'll single out some teams i think that made pretty good job at rebuilding and should be, at least to this point, respectable or even dominating teams;

Forgive me if i forgot someone but here are the five teams;

Knicks - done a pretty good job, really a nice core, on paper at least
Clippers - same
Nuggets - Buck, Gminksi (now Mchale), Kersey etc, good job.
Sixers - Had high draft picks in DrJ, Agguire, Nance etc (i'm probably forgoting someone), done everything he could.
Kings - as i said, all of my starting lineup were a top 5 picks bla bla bla

ALL FIVE teams are well below .50!!

Now, are we all incompetent GM's? Did we pick the wrong guys? Are we uncapable to find the right settings? NO! The answer is very simple - top prospects just sucks and they're not what they were supposed to be. From Magic, Bird, Larry Nance to DrJ, Lassale Thomspon, Mchale, Carrol and Isiah Thomas. NONE of this guy is capable of putting his team on the shoulder and make their teams at least respectable or to lead them to the playoffs. And don't give me that "you got to have a team" bullshit. Kobe led that sorry ass Lakers team to the playoff, in the West! Iverson was doing the same thing for years in Philly, KG in Minnesota, Carter & Kidd + bunch of total no namers were like a top 4 seeds in the East 2 years ago, besides Yao & Mcgrady Houston is total garbage and are like a top 4 teams in the West and so on. And if we talk about sim world, hell, i won 50 games with Danny Fortson and Brad Miller, 2 terrible defenders just beacuse Mcgrady was THAT good. So who is the next Mcgrady in this league?
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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2007, 03:50:24 PM »

look at the NBA

where's LeBron, the hands down best player in his 5th year? Lucky to get blown away in the finals when he shouldn't even have been there. Where's Wade? One title because of you-know-who had a last run left, and hardly dominating. Where's Carmelo? 1st rd and out. Where are the Bulls? building with youth for years and years and you never get the impression they are close to the top.

Who wins?

Old Pistons, old Spurs, Suns doing it with veterans, veteran Jazz, and veteran Nets riding nearly 70yrs of Kidd and VC.


guess FBB is closer to reality than we think
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2007, 03:51:41 PM »

oh for crying out loud if you hate it so much just quit!
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