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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2005, 11:03:08 PM »

Upset with Iguodala's triple double?  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2005, 06:56:27 AM »

Las night was a pretty good indication ofthe 8th and 9th draft pick...

8th pick Hoffa - 4 minutes, 2 pts, 1 reb, 1/2 shooting.

9th pick Iggy - 43 minutes, 10 pts, 10 rebs, 10 asts, 4/8 shooting.


You know you screwed up when Loren Woods has to play quadruple the minutes of your high lottery pick... Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2005, 06:59:05 AM »

But defense wasn't as critical in my point guard with my roster.  My other 4 starters will have 3 A- defenders and a B.  So I looked mainly at handling and outside shooting....and in those two categories Parker was only a net -1 to the two rookies.  I had Ellis on my draft sheet as my first choice (submitted Tuesday) mostly because of his potential.  But I chose Hobson second because of the greater need for a inside presence.  And since I lost out on the lottery and the top 3 big men it was the best available.  Also I didn't think he would drop to 14.  I made several efforts to move up from 14 to 10-12 range and theywere unsuccessful.

Last year my team was in the top half of the league defensively.  The difference in games I won and lost usually hinged on whether my shooters had a good night.  I had no inside scoring at all.

Besides I experimented a lot last year with the DC.  It was my first year and I tried all types of different combos.  My DC changed quite a bit from sim to sim.  I used last year as a learning tool.
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2005, 07:58:33 AM »

Well, I guess we'll just have to see.

I agree that Hobson wouldn't have lasted to 14.  10-12 sounds about right.

I just disagree with not going with the best player available.  And I think Mercer, if you discount size, was top 4 in regards to skill.
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2005, 07:58:56 AM »

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Las night was a pretty good indication ofthe 8th and 9th draft pick...

8th pick Hoffa - 4 minutes, 2 pts, 1 reb, 1/2 shooting.

9th pick Iggy - 43 minutes, 10 pts, 10 rebs, 10 asts, 4/8 shooting.


You know you screwed up when Loren Woods has to play quadruple the minutes of your high lottery pick... Rolling Eyes


Hoffa was playing injured and had the flu last night, so you can't use yesterdays scores as reference.  But you can use pretty much every other game...
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2005, 10:13:13 AM »

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Well, I guess we'll just have to see.

I agree that Hobson wouldn't have lasted to 14.  10-12 sounds about right.

I just disagree with not going with the best player available.  And I think Mercer, if you discount size, was top 4 in regards to skill.


you can always try to trade for a pf with hobsons skills but someone like mercer is really special. There would have been a lot of options to use or trade him.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2005, 10:20:47 AM »

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Well, I guess we'll just have to see.

I agree that Hobson wouldn't have lasted to 14.  10-12 sounds about right.

I just disagree with not going with the best player available.  And I think Mercer, if you discount size, was top 4 in regards to skill.

Interesting...  Since you could have drafted him, before you traded away the 3rd pick.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2005, 10:30:36 AM »

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you can always try to trade for a pf with hobsons skills but someone like mercer is really special. There would have been a lot of options to use or trade him.


I tried several times to trade the 14th pick for a pf.  What I was offered was less than Hobson.  I even offered to draft a player at the 7 spot and trade them for a pf.  Trades aren't as easy to fall into as many of you imply.  Especially if you are desparate to fill a need and are offering surplus.

Hobson was drafted high at 7...I'll admit that.  However to take the BPA and hope that someone will offer me the starting pf IMO was not the best way to go.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2005, 10:58:19 AM »

Actually, if the Spurs had selected Mercer over Hobson, he wouldn't have lasted to picks 10-12. That's because I would have drafted him. Had him 4th on my draft sheet after Schenk.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2005, 11:07:36 AM »

Hobson will be an interesting player.  He is 23, 6'10", and 225 lbs, with a B inside.
My shooting guard weighs just as much as him (JRich).

If he improves his outside shot, he looks like a decent SF...
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2005, 11:29:44 AM »

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Hobson will be an interesting player.  He is 23, 6'10", and 225 lbs, with a B inside.
My shooting guard weighs just as much as him (JRich).

If he improves his outside shot, he looks like a decent SF...


And Griffin is a 6'10" 242 lb center with basically the same attributes as Hobson except potential.  He weighs as much as one of my small forwards. Why no questions about drafting him?  Or his ability to survive on the inside?
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2005, 11:44:40 AM »

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And Griffin is a 6'10" 242 lb center with basically the same attributes as Hobson except potential.  He weighs as much as one of my small forwards. Why no questions about drafting him?  Or his ability to survive on the inside?

Mostly because I had Vlad Radman, who was a 6'10" 235 lb SF, who, when played at the PF position(when he was in Detroit) did not do well at all.  Of course, he only has a C+ inside, but a B+ outside.  He shot less then 40%.  I do not know whether it was because the computer did not use his mismatch ability (he coulds take any PF on the outside) or because of his C+ inside...

Except for Yao, Shaq, Tanner and Araujo, most of the centers seem to be about 6'10" to 7'0", and ranging between 240 and 260 lbs.  The PF's seem to be very similiar to the C's, except for the big guys.

I am very curious to see how much weight and height have an effect on a players effectiveness..  Both Mercer(height) and Hobson(weight) will be good players to observe for this year.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2005, 12:46:14 PM »

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Interesting... Since you could have drafted him, before you traded away the 3rd pick.


IMO Dalembert is better than Mercer.  So I don't see the validity in the comparison.

And I just want to clarify.  I had Hobson rated #11 in the draft, and the top pf.  He should come in and give you 14-15 ppg and 8 boards.  I certainly don't think he's a bust.  And I have seen MUCH bigger reaches.  It's just not the way I would have gone.

Debate is good.  If everything was sure-fire and we all approached this the same, it would be a boring league.
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2005, 01:13:57 PM »

Well, you rated Mercer as top 4 in the draft... Which mean you must have had Sammy rated even higher then that.
And I forgot you had Daniels, so I thought your PG spot was more dire then it actually is.   Embarassed

Debate is the fun part... lol

I did not have Hobson ranked high on my board mostly because I already have 4 frontcourt players I feel are better.
Plus, without really understanding height/weight influences that well, they do make me nervous.  This season, Hobson and Mercer will give alot of information about those things. (Probably need to watch Chandler more too.)
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