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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2005, 09:52:21 AM »

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Well remember...  The Pacers can still sign Tinsley to whateever contract he wants.   Looks like they may make a big push to keep him...


at least one GM is taking care of buisness  Smile
yea i will go for tinsley. he should give me a solid starting pg.
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2005, 03:01:37 PM »

Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2005, 03:08:34 PM »

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Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO.

Actually, in my rating system, Ellis is ranked higher...
Ellis may not become a great ball handler, but he will probably be a great scoring point.  That B- inside is real nice...
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2005, 03:27:41 PM »

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Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO.

Actually, in my rating system, Ellis is ranked higher...
Ellis may not become a great ball handler, but he will probably be a great scoring point.  That B- inside is real nice...


Why would you want a PG that is more about scoring than distributing the ball???  If you have other good players, your PG shouldn't have to score...  If you look at PG's in the draft, and base the ratings on "PG skills", Ellis is maybe the 4th best PG in the draft...  If you rate players in this draft based on "postion skills"(ex: PG = Outside, Handling, Defense), here is how the top 10 would be ranked(keep in mind potential is not a factor in this rating)

1 - Mason Mercer
2 - Oscar Ferry
3t - Tanner Houbregs
3t - Garrett Pettit
3t - Alvin Schenk
6t - Bob Diddle
6t - Troy Havlicek
8t - Ethan Terpening
8t - Lorenzo Ellis
8t - Josh Parker
11t - Emanuel Griffin (2 others tied for 11th)
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2005, 03:40:35 PM »

Scoring points are all the rage..   Wink
And a guard with (B) (B) in both offenses is almost a guaranteed 20 ppg scorer.
And there are some PG's with B ratings who averaged over 7 apg...
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2005, 04:00:58 PM »

It also depends on how much you weight attributes.

And that depends on the gm's preferences.

So there's no sure-fire rating.  That's why this is fun.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2005, 05:40:15 PM »

Ellis has a "B" handle. Which could easily go up to "B+" by the end of next years training camp/ B+ is excellent.


Ellis is the perfect fit for my team. I want to win this year, and I don't wna to try and do it with a rookie PG, so I bring in Cassell for a one year stand. Ellis learns behind him, and is ready to take over next season.
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