Wolves Position Open

[HawksGM]

The WolvesGM will be re-signing upon the league finding a replacement.  Any of you who have friend, email is sawyersl24@yahoo.com.  Please, only people who have the time to put some effort into the league.  I would like to thank the WolvesGM for his efforts and sticking with it until we find a replacement.

[WizardsGM]

Dang. Didnt see that one coming, whats up with that Wolves?

[CelticsGM]

KG retired.

so that's the end of an aera, and i guess he wants to follow his true veteran ...

[WolvesGM-old]

I decided to step down due to the same reasons that I don't take a team with DBSL.  It just bothers me too much that the commish and/or mods see the true potentials of the players.  I didn't mind it when the commish (dbodner) didn't have a team in the league, but that one part of the league, which probably seems like a minor thing to most people, is the dealbreaker for me when deciding what league to be a part of.

It was actually a tough decision, since this league is well run, and has a great group of GMs who seem to be with it for the long-haul, but like I said, the revealing of true potentials is a dealbreaker for me.

Anyway, like I already mentioned to the commish, I will stick around and be active for as long as it takes to find a replacement, so the Wolves don't get ruined by the CPU.

I just want to say thanks to everyone, especially the mods/commish(es) who do all the hard work to keep a league of this caliber running so smoothly. 

[HawksGM]

We only see the real potentials when people request them.  Not sure if you ever used FBB, but you can only see it if you go looking for it.  I guess it's just a trusting your commish type of thing.  Derek was so successful when he was commish but all of us trusted that he wasn't cheating.  It was his decision to give up the Nets and he wasn't really pressured into doing that.  I hope that all the GM's will have the same kind of trust for me.  It actually comes at a bad time for me to step in because my team is the most successful it has been since the SSBA was created and I hope if I make the playoffs the GM's don't think that I am cheating, because I like the competitive nature of this league and I wouldn't do anything to break the integrity.  That being said, there is no way around us seeing potentials unless we cut that option out of our league, but with it being such a popular option for our GM's, I don't see that happening.  Althougth Derek and I have talked about chaning a few things as far as the team banks go, but we will let that be known when it is time.

[CelticsGM]

Pure MODS can definitely NOT see any true pot.
You need the league file for that. And as the Hawks told, you need to deliberately look for it in the league file, you can't accidentially find out about it.

[WizardsGM]

He is well versed in sim leagues and FBB, so its not a matter of convincing him otherwise. He used to commish the league I commish currently. I have the same feelings regarding potential as he does, but I just play anyways

[WolvesGM-old]

it has nothing to do with a trust issue at all.  and yes i have used the program quite alot, so I know all about it.  But the fact is that every request that is made becomes one more guy that you know their true potential.  And in my mind, its impossible to just 'forget' this information once you see it.  So in a given draft class you probably get to see a lot of the top prospects' true potential.  Again, I'm not suggesting that you like seeing the info, but its just the nature of the job as commish. 

And like I mentioned before, I also realize that I'm likely one of very few who actually care about this... but that's the way she goes.

[CelticsGM]

ahem, i think this is getting a little overboard.

The commish/simmer usually does get true pot information BEFORE the draft, when it's requested. So this will help him AT the draft, if he has a high pick, and that is about the only advantage. After one TC the pot changes, and after two TCs pretty much everyone can see if someone has a high pot or not. And since guys with (requested) high pot usually are not exactly on the trade wire a lot, i don't really see much of an advantage.

I know it is POSSIBLE to cheat but it's pretty much unnecessary ...

[NetsGM]

Actually, this is going to be changing next year.  After I create the draft file this year, I'm going to export it to a database.  Next year, you're going to be able to click a button, get the true potential of a player, and also have the $ automatically deducted from your bank.

I'm not doing this because of HawksGM and a fear of cheating (if a commish wants to cheat, the opportunity is ALWAYS there, regardless of true potentials), but because of situations like the time leading up to the first few days of the draft, where being able to get the pot promptly and not have to wait for a commish to get home from work can greatly help.

It would have been done for this year, but I had to put a considerable amount of time for making tools for the new commish.

[KnicksGM-old4]

So is Wolves staying now? 

[WizardsGM]

Wow, that is a great system bods, I like the sounds of that.

[NetsGM]

Ask and you shall receive:
http://forums.ssbabasketball.com/ssba_pages/viewdraftees.php

(It's also linked to on the main "GM Actions" page.

It's a little bare-bones, but it'll get the job done.  If you don't have enough $ in the bank, it won't show you.  If you do, it will deduct the $, then show you the potential, and show you your new balance.

Let me know if there are any problems.  It's got live data in it, so it can be used for the rest of the draft.

[WolvesGM-old]

ahem, i think this is getting a little overboard.

The commish/simmer usually does get true pot information BEFORE the draft, when it's requested. So this will help him AT the draft, if he has a high pick, and that is about the only advantage. After one TC the pot changes, and after two TCs pretty much everyone can see if someone has a high pot or not. And since guys with (requested) high pot usually are not exactly on the trade wire a lot, i don't really see much of an advantage.

I know it is POSSIBLE to cheat but it's pretty much unnecessary ...

A commish having a high pick is not the only advantage.  True potential changes in a fairly predictable pattern in FBB with the player losing approximately 7 true potential per season.  If a player goes into the league with 100 potential, after 4 seasons I can make an educated guess that he will have slightly under 80 true potential left. 

Also, after 2 TCs it is far from easy to figure out what a players true potential is.  You certainly have a better idea, but far from a clear picture.  It is not uncommon for a player to go up a few ratings one season, and then not go up at all for a couple of seasons in a row.

And for a 3rd time, it has nothing to do with cheating.  The commish has extra information which the GMs do not have.  This is not him cheating, this is just a fact; which I do not like.


As far as dbodner's new potential revealing system... that is a great addition to the league.  It will definitely eliminate this as an issue over time, but unfortunately it doesn't erase what the simmers already know, so for me it doesn't change anything right now.

[NetsGM]

So you're quitting over HawksGM knowing the true potential of roughly 7 people (that's all the unique people who have been requested.

Wow.  Ok.