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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2006, 07:51:35 PM »

damn steal at the 14th. nice jazz.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2006, 11:44:20 PM »

I'm left a little puzzled by the Raptors selection of Mike Evans over Mo Cheeks.  This just smells of the 'Lorenzon Ellis over Mason Mercer' pick of a few years ago.  Sure, Evans is a good outside shooter with more potential.  But I think sometimes you should look to a guy who has the skillset required to play the position.  If Mo Cheeks potential is true, I don't see how he doesn't end up with an A- handling (which he already has) and an A- defense.  All that it requires to get there is a +2 improvement.  Sure, it's possible Evans increases by 3 in ballhandling and 2 in defense, but you're banking a lot there on potential.

I don't like combo guards even a little. 

Being that he already has a pg, I probably would have gone with Reggie Theus there.

If you need a pg, I think you should draft a pg.  If you need a SG, I don't like trying to convert a pg there.

Well, 2 words, Max Guiterrez.

Whoever I pick is not going to start. If I go with a PG, he backs up max. If I got with a SG, he backs up Chills.

I debated between Evans and Theus for about half a second. Obviously, the handles of Evans are a little lackluster, but they could always improve.

Really feel that Evans is going to be the best player of Theus/Cheeks/Evans.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 09:05:45 AM »

wat a steal at the 14th....he could start in some teams....
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2006, 10:57:13 AM »

Guys, holy shit.

You realize you are all talking about a SG who can't score and can't defend up to standard right now?

B-/C+ offense is gonna net you what? 6ppg? B- defense isn't going to slow anyone down.

B- handling is nice for a SG, but it's not amazing. When you already have a SF with B- handles, a SG with B handles and another SG with B- handles, it's kinda overkill.


And oh, yeah, this is the team that has a ton of trouble SCORING. A B-/C+ SG isn't gonna help that...especially since he plays the same position as your leading scorer!

Jazz, I love the pick, I have no doubts you made the right one. But there is a reason Theus got passed up 13 times. He's not quite the player everyone seems to be making him out to be.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2006, 11:17:39 AM »

Actually I would say the key is his true potential.  If the A potential is accurate then it is a good pick.  If not then another career backup.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2006, 11:43:01 AM »

Actually I would say the key is his true potential.  If the A potential is accurate then it is a good pick.  If not then another career backup.

Well, I do know his true potential, as I checked it as well as Evan's.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2006, 12:53:07 PM »

Guys, holy shit.

You realize you are all talking about a SG who can't score and can't defend up to standard right now?

B-/C+ offense is gonna net you what? 6ppg? B- defense isn't going to slow anyone down.

B- handling is nice for a SG, but it's not amazing. When you already have a SF with B- handles, a SG with B handles and another SG with B- handles, it's kinda overkill.


And oh, yeah, this is the team that has a ton of trouble SCORING. A B-/C+ SG isn't gonna help that...especially since he plays the same position as your leading scorer!

Jazz, I love the pick, I have no doubts you made the right one. But there is a reason Theus got passed up 13 times. He's not quite the player everyone seems to be making him out to be.

I agree that people are overstating him...however, he is the best sg ratings wise...and his talent may have been shadowed by the overwhelming talent ahead of him and the fact that many teams might not have been looking for a SG early,i don't know if anyone checked out his true potential but hey as long as he improves any i'm okay. For awhile I had Freeman Williams ranked before him, but realized that he could just become another Drews or Meyers. At 14th and already having two picks, it was wroth taking a risk that could turn out to be a big steal when I already addressed what i felt were my two needs. Plus at 6'6", although lanky, he could play SF (which is nice in case Hardy is a bust)..and if his handles play out...maybe even PG. Besides Meyers can play point and open up theus for more minutes and I don't plan on keeping Drews past his contract which gives Theus the time he needs to develop above the B-/C+ offense and B- def that you criticized .

As for the leading scorer problem, i'm hoping TC takes care of that a little, but that's something that'll have to improve...if anything i have a pretty rounded team...shooting, rebounding, defense...and i'm hoping although i don't have an A-/A handles guy, that my team will at least share the ball well and shoot high percentages.

Even though i'm "rebuilding" i still had a playoff-capable team this year, and added some very nice pieces to that same team with a lot of nice potential to improve.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2006, 01:04:25 PM »

i would definately say that Cheeks and Evans were better picks than Theus...but it comes down to the fact that I wasn't drafting for a pg and wasn't going to sit and trade them when I could already get the (potentially) best available SG in the draft. Gresham was a lottery pick PG last year...i gotta trust that his B potential will hold true and trust that shabinger and schenk will stay the same or even improve themselves. I don't like "combo" guards as mentioned earlier, I tried my luck with steve francis and jameer nelson and only succeeded in turning the ball over ridiculous amounts.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2006, 07:44:10 PM »

Robey's defense improves to B+ at PF, that's great.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2006, 08:01:13 PM »

Robey's defense improves to B+ at PF, that's great.

told you he was a steal Very Happy
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