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« on: July 11, 2006, 01:52:55 PM »

2015    170    Hawks    Draft C Michael Thompson with pick #6 of round 1.
2015    170    Cavs    Draft SG Michael Robinson with pick #7 of round 1.
2015    170    Nuggets    Draft SG Zack Profit with pick #8 of round 1.
2015    170    Jazz    Draft C Kyle Dial with pick #9 of round 1.
2015    170    Jazz    Draft SF James Hardy with pick #10 of round 1.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 02:11:01 PM »

very happy with kyle dial with his A- defense and his A potential that I had checked out prior to drafting him. Ratings-wise he actually is a +1 over Michael Thompson, but his attributes went to defense instead of offense, which I prefer anyway when I have Murray scoring well off the bench.

I would have hoped that Erving could have dropped to me, but I didn't expect it...so i went with the A- defense in Hardy who was the next on my list and with B potential i can't complain, I do wish I could have checked out his true potential as well though. Him and beardslee complement each other well and Meyers can play some minutes at SF still if I lose out with this deal.

Now with my 14th pick I can go for the best available and so far I stand with 2 of the 4 best defensive players of this draft...important considering how many points I was giving up last year despite leading the league with TO's forced. There's still a lot of good players left and so I'm still excited to see how things fall tomorrow.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 02:36:50 PM »

Wow, IMO there are 3 great prospects left, all around the same level, and I'm getting one of 'em.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2006, 03:43:38 PM »

I'm very happy, I needed a good offensive player in the post because my 2 starting bigs combined to average 13pts....Thompson should fit in nicely with Holton and form a good tandem.  I expect maybe 13/8/2 out of him his rookie season but wouldn't  be surprised for better.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 03:50:31 PM »

Wow, It's surprising that Nobody has drafted Mo Cheeks or Mike Evans. Nuggets should have got one of the PG'S
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 03:55:02 PM »

Big dropoff in talent after #7 pick, now we are getting closer to the known standards from the last drafts ... just a little lower than usual.

Only puzzeling thing is that you will easily get a B- or better defender in the middle of the 2nd round, whereas the number of "B- or better" defenders in recent years was alarmingly low:
2010: 8
2011: 8
2012: 4
2013: 4
2014: 4
2015: 45 !!!
even the last non-FBCB draft in 2009 only had 34 such defenders, so i'm not sure this is a good thing for the league, but we will see ...
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 03:59:15 PM »

I dunno, there are still at least 4-5 good, good players out there.

And when a playoff team can get a good, good player, you have a real deep draft.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 04:05:06 PM »

Wow, It's surprising that Nobody has drafted Mo Cheeks or Mike Evans. Nuggets should have got one of the PG'S

The nuggets are cpu controlled, no wonder they make strange decisions (cpu ALWAYS drafts needs, so switch all their PGs to SG and the cpu would select PG after PG)

But true, Cheeks or Evans are the best of the rest, with probably only Lee, Mitchell, Sura and Theus coming close. Freeman, Purvis and Dave are longshots to crack a starting lineup next season, that about sums up the top guys imo.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2006, 06:22:11 AM »

Wow, It's surprising that Nobody has drafted Mo Cheeks or Mike Evans. Nuggets should have got one of the PG'S

The nuggets are cpu controlled, no wonder they make strange decisions (cpu ALWAYS drafts needs, so switch all their PGs to SG and the cpu would select PG after PG)

But true, Cheeks or Evans are the best of the rest, with probably only Lee, Mitchell, Sura and Theus coming close. Freeman, Purvis and Dave are longshots to crack a starting lineup next season, that about sums up the top guys imo.


This post is really helpful CeltsGm, thanks.. I used this post in making my draft list.. I have a project right now in school, thus I really dont have much time to calculate all their rankings. (I do them manually, using my fingers. Sorry, I live in a third world country) hehe Very Happy

Anyway, Michael Robinson could be the steal in this years draft. All the B+ just reminds me of HeatGM's grade in college. haha  Lol 2

I also think that Jazz Gm should have picked cheeks or evans. Based on BPA and team needs. Just my opinion..




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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2006, 09:34:35 AM »

To respond about not getting a pg....I really considered it with the strength of talent available, but I have Gresham who was a lottery pick pg (#7) last year and he still has B potential and with shabinger and Schenk (B potential) i felt that I was more mediocre at SG and SF, especially defensively which is where Hardy is a great pickup for me, not to mention, I am rebuilding and the SG/SF are the positions that i'm oldest and weakest, IMO. As a reminder I believe Cheeks has the same ratings that Shabinger had when I drafted him including potential. I really considered Mike Mitchell, but I had to go where the defense and potential were, otherwise Mitchell might just be another Beardslee.

When push comes to shove, I feel I'm more logjammed with mediocrity at SG/SF than I am with PG. I'm talented, but Drews, Beardslee, and Meyers are very effective bench players and still not rounded enough to be fulltime starters. I also have the 14th pick to play with as well where I may take a PG.

year after year the draft class for pg's has been consistently strong, i figured if i still had holes, i have 3 first rounders again in 2017 where I can address that problem, and even free agency, but I was drafting strictly on needs and not necessarily talent and i'm very happy with my selections as long as potential pans out.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2006, 10:34:55 AM »

I don't really like the jazz's pick with him going defensive oriented. what bothers me is that how he'd pass up a guy who could defende and score. I think him not going for a pg is sort of considerably excusable with Schenk and perhaps Schabringer at the 1 would help him. but going for 2 defensive oriented players is not my type of draft. I'd rather go with a more balanced draft and to consider that there are at least 2 guys worth drafting that were available. I think picking one them above would do better for his team next year. I think his team needs someone who can take over and score. but then again, defense does dictate games and I've been a prime victim of that by trading away Josh Howard. Very Happy
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2006, 12:41:49 PM »

I don't really like the jazz's pick with him going defensive oriented. what bothers me is that how he'd pass up a guy who could defende and score. I think him not going for a pg is sort of considerably excusable with Schenk and perhaps Schabringer at the 1 would help him. but going for 2 defensive oriented players is not my type of draft. I'd rather go with a more balanced draft and to consider that there are at least 2 guys worth drafting that were available. I think picking one them above would do better for his team next year. I think his team needs someone who can take over and score. but then again, defense does dictate games and I've been a prime victim of that by trading away Josh Howard. Very Happy

i really did go back and forth with Mitchell and Hardy, and Evans/Cheeks but in the end i went with my needier position and figured C+/C+ is rounded and a good place to start offensively, especially when i could get a backcourt player with my 14th pick knowing that the bulk of the talent would still be left. I also remembered that drews was giving me 18-19 ppg at the end of the year and Gresham 15, not to mention murray's 12 off the bench.

Keep in mind this last team in my rebuilding year still almost made the playoffs...i was just giving up too many points starting Meyers B- def, and beardslee b- def...and then throwing in gresham (c def) and drews (C+def), Murray is only B defense with Rivera being my only dependable defensive guy. I think i was top 5 worst in oFG%. Schenk's nice with A- defense off the bench but he is still not close to being my starter ...Shabinger has a chance of improving defensively again having gone up and down with his ratings during his career. I had 3 guys at PG already who would suit me better at least in the shortterm when only 1 can play at a time than meyers/drews/beardslee....Gresham was a rookie too, who didn't get playing time until he came to the jazz and was doing pretty well and i'm hoping will live up to his lottery status and improve.

When i won my 2 championships, i was defensive oriented with hughes being my leading scorer at only about 19 a game with Daniels with a C+defense at the point...it seems defense at other positions is more important than at PG.  Remember the Raptors powerhouse team? They were weak defensively at SG, and correct me if i'm wrong, but that ended up spelling their end. And the nets are not weak anywhere defensively....I figure you need defense first to anchor a team and then you can add scoring, but you're right in that offense is probably something i'll need to address in free agency 2016, and the draft in 2017, but i'll see how my players develop first.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 01:00:44 PM »

While I don't think Hardy was the right pick over Theus/Cheeks/Evans, I really like the Dial pick.

He's gonna be a solid pro.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2006, 02:54:19 PM »

While I don't think Hardy was the right pick over Theus/Cheeks/Evans, I really like the Dial pick.

He's gonna be a solid pro.

well i got theus now too so at least him and hardy can battle it out Smile
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2006, 08:35:45 PM »

Robinson has the best overall ratings of any player in the draft. He seems like the SG version of Palacio, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. He's great all-around, with very good defense to begin with. If he improves, that would be awesome.
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