Magic/ Lakers deal

[LakersGM-old]

yup..initially i told you keogan for biendris but i decline dues to a drop of biendris defense....and..i told you keogan for biendris and seigl ..but the point is..you should have value biendrins more since i initially offer keogan...instead of settling for nothing....it would be even better for you to do keogan for biendris and seigl  instead of settling for a low first rounder...its just so far off...

Giving up 2 big men for one small, is not a smart idea. Giving up a young big man with a lot of potential, who is 23 years old and a near double double guy WITH a proven 20ppg scorer is not a good idea. Don't flatter yourself by trying to make the village idiot look stupid. It's not worth it. You even went so far as to lie about an offered deal, thus discrediting yourself, so just leave it at that.

[NetsGM]

No way would I have given up siegel or laporte with biedrins.  No way.  Let u snot forget that Keogan is himself a 25 year old with D potential and C+ defense making a whole lot of money.

[BlazersGM]

damn, deals here are funny.....then i keep wondering myself why i dont accept any lately

[HeatGM]

hahaha... ok...your call...your team 

[CelticsGM]

I agree, adding Siegel or Laporte to Andris would be way too much for Keogan. Basically VK and AB are both one-dimensional scorers who will never play D. So a straight-up deal would be just about fair (although I'd value Vince a tad more, too)

But what's completely ignored so far is the fact that Biedrins gives the Magic another big scorer. With Peters, Profit, Brice, Dwight and Jefferson they had fine starters but practically no bench to speak of. Andris can play PF but may be better suited for SF and gives an already potent offensive team even more scoring punch. They really could outscore most teams now and hide their defensive liabilities even more, and they gave up practically nothing, so great addition here ...
 

[LakersGM-old]

hahaha... ok...your call...your team 

laugh all you want heat, you dont make ANY sense.

[MagicGM]

hahaha... ok...your call...your team 

laugh all you want heat, you dont make ANY sense.

 

[MagicGM]

I agree, adding Siegel or Laporte to Andris would be way too much for Keogan. Basically VK and AB are both one-dimensional scorers who will never play D. So a straight-up deal would be just about fair (although I'd value Vince a tad more, too)

But what's completely ignored so far is the fact that Biedrins gives the Magic another big scorer. With Peters, Profit, Brice, Dwight and Jefferson they had fine starters but practically no bench to speak of. Andris can play PF but may be better suited for SF and gives an already potent offensive team even more scoring punch. They really could outscore most teams now and hide their defensive liabilities even more, and they gave up practically nothing, so great addition here ...
 

thanks for putting into my attention that Andris can play SF

[CelticsGM]

thanks for putting into my attention that Andris can play SF

please play him at SF, do it against my Celtics. I'd really really appreciate that, especially Schabinger and Rashard ...
 

[MagicGM]

thanks for putting into my attention that Andris can play SF

please play him at SF, do it against my Celtics. I'd really really appreciate that, especially Schabinger and Rashard ...
 

uhhh..

[CavsGM]

Biedrins' defense is highest at center.

[JazzGM-old]

it is a bad deal for the lakers. Keep in mind yes it's a strong draft, but it's a strong draft for everyone...getting a late first rounder doesn't put you in any more advantage than the better teams already are unless you're looking to round out your depth. And now to round out your depth you need an inside guy which you already had in Biedrins who as good as he is...is an ideal backup...very strong with some attribute but not quite rounded enough to be a full time starter IMO. It makes sense to trade him considering that you had Laporte and Siegel, and helped a struggling position with a player who has a good 2 years. At the same time it's horrible because you're already sealed with 2 of the hardest positions, not to mention a great backup. But i guess you can't really make a full judgment on the deal until we see what losing that extra cap gains you in free agency and how much potential the player you grab has to develop. It's just too many "if's" for me though.

[NetsGM]

please bring more to a discussion than emoticons if you're going to post.

[LakersGM-old]

Biedrins was going to walk. I did not intend on resigning him. I was about to get nothing, so I made the deal. Someone would have offered him much more money than i was willing to pay. Yes this draft is strong for everyone. Keep in mind, I will likely have a top 5 pick for my roster, as well as this late one. This draft class IMO is too strong for this league, and I think that will be recognized as we get into the next season.

[JazzGM-old]

yeah but the thing is you gave up a good, proven young inside player who's just as good as probably any rookie you'll get even after they fill their potential at least at that point in the draft, yes there's that chance that i'm wrong, but for me, i'd look at the fact that i already had a high pick in the draft and would be content with that and so i would have no need to play that game of chance with a lower pick, especially when i'm giving up that quality of a player. (unless of course you are improving on beidrins in the draft in the first place with the pick/s you had originally)

I understand why you did it and it makes sense for all the reasons you gave, i'm just giving my point as to why i think despite what you said, that it's giving you more chance of being worse than if you would have just stayed where you were. I mean it more for discussion/analysis than criticism, besides, i need to pad my post counts a little  .