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Question: What should we do in the future?  (Voting closed: May 20, 2006, 07:17:50 PM)
FBCB - How it is - 6 (28.6%)
Based off old NBA drafts - 12 (57.1%)
FBCB - Tweaked - 3 (14.3%)
Total Voters: 20

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« on: May 13, 2006, 07:17:50 PM »

Alright, I've been thinking of what to do with the draft.  With the ability to purchase a draftees true potential, the major benefit of FBCB (getting a feeling of what kind of player they are and if the potential is true or not) isn't as important.  So I'm going to open it up to a vote.  What would you rather have:
1) Leave it using FBCB.  Get a little more detail on what kind of player it is (i.e. that they have great passing, but also turn it over.  Better mid-range shooter than 3 pt shooter, etc).  Also get some insite on their potential, but with still leaving a little ambiquity
2) Start "recreating" the first round of the NBA draft from 1978.  Players wouldn't be exactly replicated.  They would share names and physical characteristics. i.e. Charles Barkley would be a 6'5" pf.  They would share similar characteristics (i.e. barkley would have better rebounding and scoring than defense), but the level of their attributes wouldn't necessarily be the same as their real life counterparts (i.e. Magic Johnson wouldn't automatically be great.  He may be a role player.  It also wouldn't have any corrolation with potential, i.e. you wouldn't know Karl Malone would improve from a 14/9 guy in his rookie year to a 31/11 guy just because he's Karl Malone).
3) Continue using FBCB, but have me "tweak" some players to get better draft classes.

Vote for which one you want, and I'll do it starting next year.  Remember, with option two I'm just doing however many players were in the first round, so there will be some computer created players (mainly because I don't have time to create 100 draftees).
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 07:25:02 PM »

BTW, I love the new options of this board.  It's set where it won't show the results until the poll is closed, and where you can change your vote before the poll closes.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2006, 07:25:22 PM »

I'd vote for the recreation draft, just to get something "new" in here.

Taking a deep look into FBCB recently I only found so many prospects for next year and definitely no superstar in the making, so I don't expect these FBCB drafts to improve considerably. But "tweaking" FBCB ratings would render the whole FBCB analysis useless, so why then even sticking to FBCB imports.


Would it be possible to use real names for the non-handmade players in a recreaqtion draft? So it can't be that difficult to find players that are about similar to original draft entries (i believe there wer multiple rounds, like 7 or so, back then so the pool of players to choose from should be there ...

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 07:28:47 PM »

it would be nice to have a re-creation of the past drafts. as the fictional players is getting a bit boring. haha
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2006, 07:38:56 PM »

OMG, we will keep Ivan aboard.
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Or will those recreation draft give us names like "Yasha Lyashenko" ? That beats that boring and limited FBB draftee naming ...
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2006, 07:41:41 PM »

Nope.  After the top 23-30 it would give you FBB created names Smile
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2006, 07:47:26 PM »

Nope.  After the top 23-30 it would give you FBB created names Smile

But I know you can get FBB a handmade list of names to use ... and if i see another Chase Chamberlain or Kareem Marion I'm going to throw up ...
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2006, 07:51:52 PM »

So make me a list.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2006, 12:17:10 PM »

Wait a minute...We're going to have real time players in the draft?!? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2006, 01:18:06 PM »

Wait a minute...We're going to have real time players in the draft?!? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2006, 01:39:49 PM »


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When i saw half of my team retired it was only matter of day before my final resignation. But now, things are little diferent... Smile
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 01:43:58 PM »

Nevermind!  We'll continue using FBCB!  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2006, 02:56:14 PM »

IMO too many GMS are looking for sure things 10-12 spots deep in the draft.  That doesn't happen in the real NBA very often so I don't see why we should have it happen here.  I don't think we should change anything unless we go back to FBB generated drafts and give up the FBCB ones.

And once we start "tweaking" the players to produce better drafts where does it end?  How much tweaking is allowed?  Will we create 5-6 all stars in every draft?  2-3 superstars?

And if we want "real" NBA player names then just edit the draft each year giving FBCB players real NBA names.  But don't change any of their attributes.  If we are not going to have true attributes for the Barkleys, Magics, Birds, etc then what difference does it make if they are PF or SG or whatever.

Review the award winners and all stars this past year.  Check out where the players were drafted.  There are stars being produced.  Very few are "NBA ready" when drafted from college but have developed into stars.  Everyone just wants to draft the next Pettit without doing any work.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 03:59:39 PM »

I also think that we should leave it the same.  We haven't really gave the FBCB enough of a chance.  Sure we aren't getting the impact players that some might like, but that's the challenging part.  Between this and the hard cap I think the SSBA will become very competitive and will take more effort to be good.
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 04:11:03 PM »

I voted for the old NBA draft thing, but I had some misgivings about it. I think it's somewhat unfair to the teams who had high draft picks in the years we had some rough drafts. Teams that dominated during those years are now in the twighlights of their runs, just in time to catch some great prospects in the draft.
Overall though, I'd say the benefits outweigh the negatives.
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