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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2005, 08:34:00 PM » |
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I didn't know players with less than 3 years bird rights could only offer you a contract if you're under tha cap.
All I know is I'm losing a 20/5/5 guy and it really sucks. Oh well, you win some you lose some. I should have pushed harder to trade him during the season ..... There was a reason for the whole 2nd rounders 2 year contract argument. What? Yeah it's not like I just found out I lost Drew, I knew going in to the season he probably wouldn't resign. I tried to trade him (probably not as hard as I should have though) but it's hard trading a player of his calibre given his situation. |
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2005, 09:58:55 PM » |
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What? You can now offer him a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million. Before you could just offer him the one year MLE. |
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2005, 10:59:52 PM » |
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What? You can now offer him a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million. Before you could just offer him the one year MLE. Yeah I know. I don't know where Cavs got that I didn't know that. In my first post, I was just saying that it sucks to lose Drew (most likely goin to happen), thats it. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2005, 04:37:41 AM » |
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I didn't know players with less than 3 years bird rights could only offer you a contract if you're under tha cap.
All I know is I'm losing a 20/5/5 guy and it really sucks. Oh well, you win some you lose some. I should have pushed harder to trade him during the season Believe me, i doubt you would have been able to deal him during the season, and got equal value in return. Like it happended with Mark Bird and others in the past, EVERYONE else knows he'll lose him too. And it's not like he's SO good and could have carried a lesser team to the title (like for example VC might have been able to). Nice numbers on offense but that's about his strength ... |
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2005, 11:34:13 AM » |
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What? You can now offer him a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million. Before you could just offer him the one year MLE. Yeah I know. I don't know where Cavs got that I didn't know that. In my first post, I was just saying that it sucks to lose Drew (most likely goin to happen), thats it. It's not most likely. It's 100% likely. Players cannot re-sign with you in this period if you do not have their bird rights. That's where the whole argument about the contracts of 2nd rounders came from. Before, you could not re-sign then in the re-signing period, and you could only re-sign them in free agency with 120%(close to nothing, like 600K), the LLE, or the MLE. Some people wanted to give 2nd rounders a 3rd year on their contracts(giving bird rights), but that didn't happen because it would completely kill the value of late first rounders. So Bods made the 2nd year option of 3.75 mil so now you can offer deal up to 6 years and 10% increases with a starting salary of 4.5 mil. |
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2005, 11:42:54 AM » |
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Yes. IMO there should be some risk with a 2nd round pick. If the player develops into a star, and someone offers more than the MLE, that's the risk you get for the reward of paying them peanuts and having little risk of failure when drafting them.
It's like the real NBA. Had someone offered more than the MLE for michael redd, the bucks would have been helpless. The difference between how we were and how the NBA is (last CBA) was that our MLE could only be worth 1 year. That's why I did the thing with the 2nd year, to make our risk/reward more like the true NBA's, not because I don't think there should be some inherent risk in 2nd rounders.
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2005, 11:59:04 AM » |
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I agree. I think a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million with 10% increases is a very nice contract, but if someone offers more than that you have to deal with it.
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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2005, 04:44:41 PM » |
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Thats' what happened with Gilbert right?
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2005, 09:36:31 PM » |
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Yes.
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2005, 04:06:43 AM » |
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i think we have our first hall of fame candidat. Kidd retired this year and his stats are good enough for that imo.
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2005, 10:57:43 AM » |
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I'm gonna offer the MLE to Dunkin'.  |
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« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2005, 09:41:59 PM » |
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Additional Offers (Nuggets had some personal issues, so I extended his deadline until end of rd 1 draft)
- Nuggets Pachulia $5,400,000 $5,940,000 $6,480,000 $17,820,000
- Nuggets Radmanovich $7,924,150 $8,716,565 $9,508,950 $10,301,395 $11,093,810 $47,544,870
- Nuggets Stockton $2,661,692 $2,927,681 $5,589,373
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« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2005, 01:05:51 AM » |
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All that money for Radmanovic?!  |
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