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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2005, 12:27:04 PM »

You can always find good PG in draft because every draft is full of excellent PGs, but you wouldn't find big man like Hoffa in the draft.  Like this trade for the Kings.
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2005, 12:31:03 PM »

I agree that with the age of Nash and with Araujo and Yao not complementing each other, the trade creates a much more balanced Raptors future.

And I love(d) max, but he is easier to replace.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2005, 01:03:04 PM »

Max is better than any of the PGs in this draft, IMO.

I also really think that he can be very good.

And Pietrus still has B potential, if he goes to C+, A- offense with A- defense, I would be very happy with that.
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2005, 01:08:10 PM »

At some point potential gets thrown out the window IMO.  Pietrus has essentially been the same player for 5 years.  I don't see him improving at this point, much in the same boat as Bosh (who I believe also had a B potential up until this last TC).

Oh, I know his ratings have changed, but his production really hasn't.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2005, 01:10:17 PM »

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At some point potential gets thrown out the window IMO.  Pietrus has essentially been the same player for 5 years.  I don't see him improving at this point, much in the same boat as Bosh (who I believe also had a B potential up until this last TC).


Well, there's always hope, but I do agree with you there.

Anyway, if nothing else, it allows Yao to restake his claim as the top scorer on the team, which is a very good thing.

I can now go back to running a fast pace (which allowed Yao to play more mintes)
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2005, 01:39:16 PM »

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The combination of Hoffa, McGrady and Bibby is deadly. The Kings will likely be making a serious run right now, and Hoffa has shown the ability to be a great 2nd fiddle.


I think the Kings are looking to move Hoffa.


Actually i was targeting only 1 guy. If that doesn't go thrue, i think i'll stick with him.
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2005, 01:43:23 PM »

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At some point potential gets thrown out the window IMO.  Pietrus has essentially been the same player for 5 years.  I don't see him improving at this point, much in the same boat as Bosh (who I believe also had a B potential up until this last TC).

Oh, I know his ratings have changed, but his production really hasn't.



Exactly my words. I had Pietrus on 2 occasions, and he was basically 5ppg guy every time. His ratings are changing (specially potential,, Raps, don't be surprised if his potential go down to D soon, and then climb back to B), but his production always stayed the same.

He's a good guy to have around, but i don't think you can hope for him to be somekind of a option. Actually i can't recall it when was the last time he scored in double digits.
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2005, 01:59:30 PM »

And now explanation off course;

1. I really like Max, i think he could become a great pg. But with Bibby (whom i tried to move for great big too, but only recived shitty offers) + because of his age he just doesn't fit in my "Mcgrady" plans. As i said, i'll do whatever it takes to try win a championship with Mcgrady and this could be the first step toward that direction.

2. Prince and Pietrus ; i lose alot on sg/sf depth, but if that was the price for getting Hoffa, so be it.

3. Kings First Rounders - I think one of them is crap, and one could be a potential lotto. 2013? Hard to tell what will happen, but if you want 25/13 guy, you gotto give at least one potential lotto pick.

4. Heat pick - No team with Duncan can be a lotto IMO, so therefore, 10 - 20 range is not something i should cry about.

Overall i think it's a great deal for me. Bibby - Tmac - 25/13 guy is just something i couldn't have resisted.

And last, i really want to put some fear in league's powerhouses. Smile
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2005, 06:57:52 PM »

since I did erroneously say he can make a trade within 24 hours, I will say mea culpa and allow him to make a trade until 7pm tomorrow night.
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2005, 09:07:33 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2005, 09:35:06 AM »

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I'm very high on young Max who is better than any PG in this year's draft.



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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2005, 09:36:05 AM »

I like this deal for the Kings.
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2005, 09:38:14 AM »

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I'm very high on young Max who is better than any PG in this year's draft.



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Toby isn't in this year's draft. He was in last years, with Max. And yes, Toby>Max.
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2005, 10:16:00 AM »

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I'm very high on young Max who is better than any PG in this year's draft.



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Toby isn't in this year's draft. He was in last years, with Max. And yes, Toby>Max.

Correct.

This year PGs better than Max are Ramsey, Arbogast, Seymore and Cox. They all have way better ratings than Max had when drafted (= before TC).
(according to my complicated formula which i myself don't always understand ...)
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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2005, 10:24:42 AM »

True.  But Max has the advantage of only being 20 when drafted, and having his A potential be definitely proven to be true.

Personally, I would take Max as he is right now over any PG in the draft.
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