Raptors - Kings

[NetsGM]

yes, but since this trade has been accepted by both parties, he can't say "I cancel this trade if the other trade doesn't go through".

[KingsGM-old]

I am such a idiot....i have no idea why, but my brain just can't adjust to rules...sorry.

[RaptorsGM]

That's what I like to hear.

And there you go Kings, no problem.

[KingsGM-old]

yes, but since this trade has been accepted by both parties, he can't say "I cancel this trade if the other trade doesn't go through".

I won't cancel the trade. It will go thru either way. I just forgot about stupid 60 day rule.

[RaptorsGM]

Well, what has this left me with? A Roster of:

Yao/Walker
Sampson/JDN
Prince/Longley
Pietrus/Nash
Max/Nash

With Yao, Pietrus and Max as the top options, I think.

Also, the Spurs pick (Projected T-6th) and the Heat pick (Projected 8th).

I think this lineup can be a solid .500, as I am in love with both Pietrus and Max. The defense should be better, and the offense will once again truely revolve around Yao.

And who knows about the Kinga 2012 and 2013...I'll wait to see his other "big move" before I speculate.

[RaptorsGM]

yes, but since this trade has been accepted by both parties, he can't say "I cancel this trade if the other trade doesn't go through".

I won't cancel the trade. It will go thru either way. I just forgot about stupid 60 day rule.

Like I said, You have 24 hours to post your other trade and FORGET ABOUT THE 60 DAY RULE. Meaning you can package Hoffa with other players as long as you post it before 24 hours is up.

[KingsGM-old]

PHEW...good to hear that.


Pietrus? Prepare to be dissapointed.

[RaptorsGM]

Pietrus has always played under his ratings, yes, but that is about to change.

[NetsGM]

Like max, in fact think in time he might be nearly as good as Hoffa (although not as valuable since the league has a lot of pg's).  The Heat pick should be solid (although I don't think it'll be top 10 once TD gets back to playing regularly).  Prince and Pietrus IMO are below average starters.  They can get by as specialized roleplayers on the right team, but otherwise are bench players.

[RaptorsGM]

Like max, in fact think in time he might be better than Hoffa.  The Heat pick should be solid (although I don't think it'll be top 10 once TD gets back to playing regularly).  Prince and Pietrus IMO are below average starters.  They can get by as specialized roleplayers on the right team, but otherwise are bench players.

I think that Pietrus will turn out to be a stater, C+ B+ offense is very close to providing that allready, and he still has B potential.

While I agree about the Heat, I also no of some other factors that could result in the pick being top 10 still.

And both future Kings picks will likely b 10-20 range.

[GoldenStateGM]

Well, I do hate to see Hoffa come back West...  

The combination of Hoffa, McGrady and Bibby is deadly.  The Kings will likely be making a serious run right now, and Hoffa has shown the ability to be a great 2nd fiddle.
The Pacific Division is now the toughest Division in the league, imo.

The Raps were stuck at 0.500, and this gives them a great future. I am a huge fan of Max, good chance he will be a great PG in this league.  Pietrus and Prince are both good players, and the the likely lotto pick will liekly net a decent PF/C for the Raps in the offseason. Juts hope the team can mature before Yao starts to age.

[NetsGM]

The combination of Hoffa, McGrady and Bibby is deadly. The Kings will likely be making a serious run right now, and Hoffa has shown the ability to be a great 2nd fiddle.

I think the Kings are looking to move Hoffa.

[HornetsGM]

I really think Hoffa is more valuable than the package the Raps received in return.

[RaptorsGM]

Apparently not, as no other offers came anywhere close.

[GoldenStateGM]

I disagree with the idea that Pietrus and Prince are below average starters...  I think Prince is an average starter, and Pietrus, at SF is average or an above average starter.  I think Pietrus just has never gotten a chance to start, his career 3 pt% is 46%.

The true question is how much you value Max.  Alot of people value him very highly (I know I do, and was cursing the Kings when he picked him )  In two years I think he will be a top 10 PG in the league, maybe even top 5.

It looks like the Yao/Araujo experiment was not working out that well, and Nash may be on his last legs.  The Raps have set themselves up quite nicely for the future with this trade, imo.