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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2005, 02:42:06 PM » |
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Yeah, nothing like having a combined 11 TOPG from the 1-3 spots. I bet most starting lineups don't average that many.
12.3 acutally. Actually there is one TEAM averaging less (the Grizzlies at 12.2) !!!  |
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2005, 03:02:47 PM » |
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Yes but you can discount it some as there is still only one ball on the court for the 3 of them to throw away.
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2005, 03:03:00 PM » |
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Yeah, nothing like having a combined 11 TOPG from the 1-3 spots. I bet most starting lineups don't average that many.
12.3 acutally. Actually there is one TEAM averaging less (the Grizzlies at 12.2) !!! JWill is one of the most underrated players in the game. When discussions of top pg's come up, his name never seems to be in there, and I don't know why. (Stats on a per 35 minute basis to put on an even scale). JWill vs. Opp Starting PG: PPG: 15.4 vs. 13.2 (+2.2) FG%: 46% vs. 43% (+3) 3pt%: 44% vs 40% (+4) APG: 8.3 vs 7.5 (+0.8 ) TOPG: 1.8 vs. 2.9 (+1.1) A/TO: 4.6 vs. 2.6 (+2) SPG: 1.9 vs. 1.6 (+0.3) 3PTM (season): 152 vs. 102 (+50) FTM: 154 vs. 128 (+26) Those are just astounding numbers across the board. It's not just personal production, but net improvement. Of course, that being said: Boykins vs. Opp starting PG (per 35 minutes): PPG: 18.2 vs. 13.9 (+ 4.3) FG%: 47% vs. 46% (+1%) 3pt%: 42% vs. 39% (+3%) APG: 8.9 vs. 7.3 (+1.6) TOPG: 1.7 vs. 3.34 (+1.6) A/TO: 5.2 vs. 2.2 (+3) SPG: 2.1 vs. 1.8 (+0.3) 3PTM: 159 vs. 95 (+64) FTM: 184 vs. 111 (+73) |
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2005, 03:33:39 PM » |
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For JWill, he has one true weakness...
per 35 mpg
JWill rpg 2.82, opponent rpg 4.23
Boykins outrebound his opponents, but I did not know he let up such a high percentage.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2005, 03:38:23 PM » |
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You guys think I overpaid for Sheed? If TC is unkind to him he could turn nasty...  |
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2005, 03:45:52 PM » |
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You guys think I overpaid for Sheed? If TC is unkind to him he could turn nasty... Not really. If he stays at his current level, Sheed is a good starter at SF, and very possibly a decent starter at PF as well. |
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2005, 03:54:15 PM » |
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At his current age and potential, he can only go down IMO
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2005, 04:39:46 PM » |
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At his current age and potential, he can only go down IMO I though this, hence the 2 year deal. Although Mike Finley improve in TC last year and I thought for sure he was finished... so I decided to give him another year...  |
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2005, 05:00:48 PM » |
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He is definitely tradeable for some youth or picks. I don't think you overpaid at all.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2005, 05:03:00 PM » |
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For JWill, he has one true weakness...
per 35 mpg
JWill rpg 2.82, opponent rpg 4.23
Boykins outrebound his opponents, but I did not know he let up such a high percentage. Actually I couldn't care less if my PG is outrebounded by a board or two. That's not a skill I look for at this position ...  |
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2005, 05:13:06 PM » |
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That's too bad... A PG or SG that gets outrebounded gives up a possession or two a game, at least.
With some pretty good rebounders (Wallace and JRich are excellent rebounders at their positions), the Grizz were basically even in rebounding last year. If Jwill was a better rebounder, they would easily beat their opponents in rebounding.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2005, 05:40:45 PM » |
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That's too bad... A PG or SG that gets outrebounded gives up a possession or two a game, at least.
With some pretty good rebounders (Wallace and JRich are excellent rebounders at their positions), the Grizz were basically even in rebounding last year. If Jwill was a better rebounder, they would easily beat their opponents in rebounding. How would you guess this ? It's of no importance if my PG or someone else gets the board. A strong (defensive) rebounding guy like Kidd mainly takes boards from his teammates. But to speak of lost possessions then is a bit of a reach. Offensive boards mean lost possession, but that # is hard to calculate here with FT attempts factoring in too. |
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2005, 05:43:43 PM » |
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I would guess a strong rebounding pg mainly helps your fast break, and would work best in conjunction with a fast or very fast pace.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2005, 06:01:41 PM » |
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I would guess a strong rebounding pg mainly helps your fast break, and would work best in conjunction with a fast or very fast pace. Hey any idea what time yo will do it tonight? |
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2005, 06:31:25 PM » |
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