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« on: September 20, 2005, 06:21:45 PM »

Nets trade

PG Chauncey Billups
PF AJ Dial
PF Malik Christie
+ Nets 1st 2010
+ Nets 1st 2011


Celtics trade

PG Bailey Snow
FC Darko Milicic
SG Shawn Geiger
+ Sixers 1st 2011

that's it ...
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 06:23:41 PM »

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Nets trade

PG Chauncey Billups
PF AJ Dial
PF Malik Christie
+ Nets 1st 2010
+ Nets 1st 2011


Celtics trade

PG Bailey Snow
FC Darko Milicic
SG Shawn Geiger
+ Sixers 1st 2011

that's it ...


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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 06:25:59 PM »

reasoning:
well, I had a few other deals on the table, but all involved other starters moving.  And with the way I've been winning, I don't want to mess with that.


So I got a bit younger and a bit more depth.  

Darko is an A- defender at C, PF and SF.  That versatility will be nice.  Lo drops to a B+ defensively at PF, and my other PF (dial) was a B-.  Also got a little younger at the pg spot, which was the only position i was really old in.

Then I traded some of my picks (which hopefully are almost worthless) for a pick that while probably won't be good, should hopefully be better.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 06:26:27 PM »

interesting deal, not sure who I like it more for.  Nets probably looking past the Boykins days and getting a young guy for when Boykings expires.  For the Celtics they get a guy in Chauncey Billups who was a great starting PG for the Nets.  Time will tell who this one favors IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 06:30:23 PM »

btw, this is NOT why the sim was late.  this deal didn't delay the sim.  it did delay my dinner though  Confused
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 06:33:06 PM »

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btw, this is NOT why the sim was late.  this deal didn't delay the sim.  it did delay my dinner though  Confused


go eat my friend Laughing , remember carbs aren't as bad as everyone says they are!!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 06:37:22 PM »

I am not sure that I like this for the Celts, but I'm pretty sure that they'll get better in the short term at least. They have a pretty good starting 5 now, but they're not close to the better teams out there.

I like the trade for the Nets.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 06:42:15 PM »

Celtics did this because:

I needed a third scoring option after Pau and Lenard. Chauncey was a 19ppg PG only last year

I didn't want to keep two similar young PGs (three with Nat) and neither Watson nor Miller was starter material. #6 pick Snow has a nice future ahead but Rocky gave me more on both ends this year.

Darko I will miss. Getting 7 blocks on TD isn't too common around here. And at age 22 he's got all the time ahead of him. He was the price to pay.


The picks are a wash. Sure, if the Sixers move TD for 12 first rounders in 2012 I look pretty bad (Safe guess: they won't because they'd be the laughingstock of whole Manila next season). Otherwise I dealt pick #22 for two #29 picks. And we all know meanwhile what you get past #10 ...


Guess that's it for this year, folks. 6 deals and my starting lineup went from
Curry-Jefferson-Vlad-Van Exel-Elliott (age 22.4) to
Booth-Gasol-Lenard-Ginobili-Billups (age 28.4).

I like it
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 06:45:15 PM »

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6 deals and my starting lineup went from
Curry-Jefferson-Vlad-Van Exel-Elliott (age 22.4) to
Booth-Gasol-Lenard-Ginobili-Billups (age 28.4).

Not to forget: Al Jefferson, Nat Van Exel, Rocky Elliott, Tower and Duncan (no, not that one) are STILL here too.

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2005, 06:48:01 PM »

And in the end this deal comes down to this:

A young backup PG + a project backup forward for a top 10 starting PG (at least till Rocky or Nat are ready).

Not too much risk here ...  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2005, 08:39:05 PM »

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btw, this is NOT why the sim was late.  this deal didn't delay the sim.  it did delay my dinner though  Confused


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oh, don't worry.  I couldn't go on a diet (I can keep myself from eating poorly, but I can't cut things out like that).

If basketball and lifting don't keep me in shape, then I don't want to keep in shape, heh.  I can't eat cardboard my whole life.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2005, 08:44:52 PM »

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oh, don't worry.  I couldn't go on a diet (I can keep myself from eating poorly, but I can't cut things out like that).

If basketball and lifting don't keep me in shape, then I don't want to keep in shape, heh.  I can't eat cardboard my whole life.


lol, I have to eat well for class (Exercise Physiology major), and not every single thing tastes like cardboard Wink
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2005, 08:45:43 PM »

Surprised some people think I got the better end of this.  I thought I definitely gave up more talent than I got back.  Chauncey can still score 20/game and give 9 assists.  There's no way I replace that.  Amd going to a team with one of the worst starting pg rotations in the league, that's huge.

Chauncey just didn't make sense here at 10 mpg.  I even tried moving him to sg and such, couldn't get him more time.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2005, 08:46:06 PM »

I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10)

I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2005, 08:46:48 PM »

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Surprised some people think I got the better end of this.  I thought I definitely gave up more talent than I got back.  Chauncey can still score 20/game and give 9 assists.  There's no way I replace that.  Amd going to a team with one of the worst starting pg rotations in the league, that's huge.

Chauncey just didn't make sense here at 10 mpg.  I even tried moving him to sg and such, couldn't get him more time.


I don't think you get the better end.

I like it for the C's.
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