Kelvin Cato available

[CelticsGM]

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I have an offer, and it will be accepted Tommorow at noon if nothing comes up, or Thursday before the sim at the latest ...

still hoping this wasn't just announced to make us ... hmmm, offer our souls on top  

[RaptorsGM]

Actually, it included Joe Smith...who has since been traded.

SonicsGM was good enough to let me know first though.

[BucksGM]

I took less offense from the mass PM than I did to the suggestion that Cato was "a starter on most teams" or worth a first round pick

[RaptorsGM]

If you wouldnt start him over what you've got, your crazy.

[NetsGM]

Holier than thou attitude?  I told you not to do it, and you basically said "thanks, but it's none of your business".  At that point I AM allowed to flex my authority.  In case you missed it, that rules page was authored by me, on a server that the expenses are paid for by me, with a massive amount of time that is devoted to by me.  When I make a DECISION (which, you might want to differentiate from a recommendation), I expect a little more respect than saying "no thanks, i'll continue to do things how I want".  THAT'S disrespect.  And your response to PacersGM is simply unacceptable.  He wasn't mocking you.  He was PROVING that they do in fact annoy people.

[RaptorsGM]

You know what, I heard you, no more mass PM's, and fine, I won't do it anymore....But you are the boss, so what you say goes, and I understand that.

[NetsGM]

The fact that you said that doesn't take away from the rest of your post.  I am still allowed to reply to the other 3 paragraphs.

[RaptorsGM]

Ok, then you want to know how I feel?

I feel like this sim league is becomming a dictatorship where Dabods is always right, and you better not think or say anything that conflicts with his thoughts.

I think that sending Mass PM's is a good thing for my team and doesn't do any harm. You think otherwise. Since you are the boss, I no longer have the right to send Mass PM's, which I understand and accept. But I DO HAVE THE RIGHT to voice my opinion on the matter.

And others also have the right to voice their opinions too. That's why people died in the Wars, so we can all have FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

I have the right to think that the PacersGM was mocking me, and I DO THINK THAT. Because the tone that I sensed from his post was heavily laced with sarcasm.

I KNOW that you have THE LAST SAY in all issues, and I have already agreed NOT TO SEND ANYMORE Mass PMs. That's fine. But I don't want my voice taken away from me because I disagree with you. I don't want to be told to fuck off and join another league. I've been here from the start. I've been the most active GM in all of the SSBA. The truth is that I helped build this League. And so did you. And you've done MORE for it than I have by saving it when Twat ruined it.

But I have earned the right to say what I want to say within reason. I'm not going to go and personally attack a GM, because that's not right. But if I have something to say, I want to be able to say it without the fear that my fellow GM's are going to mock me or tell me to leave. I should have that right. Alot of GM's disagree with alot of what I have to say, but we should be able to disagree without it coming down to this. And it takes a JOINT EFFORT from everyone to make that work. It takes an effort from me to not have a bad attitude. It takes an effort from you, Bods, to explain your reasoning. It takes an effort from people such as the PacersGM to read their words before they press "submit", and think about how others will take it.

I love this League, I've put countless hours into trying to make this a better place. If sending mass PM's doesn't contribute to the well-being of this league, then I'm not about to do it anymore.

[NetsGM]

You have a right to voice your opinion.  You do not have a right to voice your opinion in the manner you did.  Become a dictatorship?  In what regards?

Let's see.  The question comes up on how to manage second round draft picks.  What do I do?  I bring it up to the league.  Ask for everyone's opinion.  When all is said and done, I go AGAINST what I thought and took the suggestion of CavsGM, and implemented it.

When the issue of what to do with the poor drafts we've been having comes up, I put it to vote.  My initial theory was that we would need to slightly modify the draft files to bring more talent into the league.  What was the final decision?  To leave it untouched, at the request of the league.

In the past we had posted depth charts on the boards.  To the suggestion of the league, I changed that to PM's.  

Outside of complaining about the way people act, I haven't used any authority whatsoever.  And I have certainly never suppressed any opinions from being voiced.  What I will always criticize people about (and frankly, had it been someone of lower tenure, like say WizardsGM, who told someone to "Fuck off", he would have been out that day) are the tone that they respond with.

Do you have a right to voice your opinion, and disagree with mine, on Mass PM's?  Certainly.

Do you have a right to feel that PacersGM was mocking you?  Certainly.

Do you have a right to respond the way that you did to me?  Do you have the right to tell PacersGM to "fuck off"?  Absolutely not.  That will never be tolerated in this league.  Not from you, not from KingsGM (who I've had to remind every now and then), not from WizardsGM.  Heck, even WolvesGM won't get away with that.

[NetsGM]

And if anyone else thinks this has become a dictatorship, I'd be more than willing to step down if a suitable replacement steps up.  Heck, that might even be a necessity come the end of September.

[HornetsGM]

Raps, please start a new thread re: Cato if you want to.

[RaptorsGM]

I thought it was a good idea to lock this, Hornets, and I have PM'd a response to the NetsGM.

I have nothing more to say in public about this.

[NetsGM]

Considering PacersGM is involved in this, and the initial posts that started this is in the public, it deserves to be in the public.  No reason they can't form an opinion on right vs. wrong, as long as it's civilized.  HornetsGM and I have discussed this and have no issue with the thread being open.

[RaptorsGM]

Well, now Bods has asked me to take it back to here.

And I'll say it again, I'm done with this. I don't agree with you, Dabods, and I don't think you have the right to treat me the way you have.

But I don't want to sit here having this little pissing contest while there are 10 ther GM's sitting there waiting for the sim.

For a while, I'm going to stick to basketball talk, nothing else. That way I won't spark any of these stupid fights.

[HeatGM]

bods is doing a fine job as a commish...no complaints here....i also think that there is no harm done on mass PMs...but we have to respect the commish and the rest of the team in the league..some dont want to receive spam PMs...i think the way to solve this is to have a poll  for the rest of the league to vote on it...that's my opinion