Vote: 2nd Round Draft Picks

[NetsGM]

Should I give the teams an option of adding a third year to 2nd round draft picks, helping them retain them by giving them bird rights?

(This would begin for next years draft class)

[RaptorsGM]

Absolutly. I'm set up to lose 3 members of my team last year that were going to be important members of my team this year, all because I don't have bird rights.

Why should a team be punished for finding a 2nd round gem? Doesn't make sense.

[GoldenStateGM]

Should I give the teams an option of adding a third year to 2nd round draft picks, helping them retain them by giving them bird rights?

(This would begin for next years draft class)

I would say yes, but it would be great if the third year was for the MLE...  (like early bird rights)
And if you had to make that decision from the start, it would be a tough call to make.

[NetsGM]

Why should a team be punished for finding a 2nd round gem? Doesn't make sense.

*sigh*

Do you listen when we have these arguments?

It's part of the risk/reward of a 2nd round pick.  The reward is that you don't have a 4 year guaranteed contract for a 2nd round bust.  

The last pick (29th of the draft) of the first round has a guaranteed contract of 7.6 million over 4 years.  The very next pick (first pick of the 2nd round) has a guaranteed contract of about .7 million over 2 years.  Substantial more risk for that one draft slot.

If you add a 3rd year of 600k to the 2nd round pick, it's still only a 1.3 million dollar commitment over 3 years.  6 million less than the pick before him.  Then to top it off, you can give him the maximum contract.

This makes late first round picks virtually worthless.  And early 2nd round picks worth 100% more.  There's no balance whatsoever, and I hate the idea.

[NetsGM]

Should I give the teams an option of adding a third year to 2nd round draft picks, helping them retain them by giving them bird rights?

(This would begin for next years draft class)

I would say yes, but it would be great if the third year was for the MLE...  (like early bird rights)
And if you had to make that decision from the start, it would be a tough call to make.

I agree.  Something to make it a tough choice.  Something to make it a risk.

Simply adding the third year adds no risk, and offers a great deal of reward.

[PacersGM]

yea i agree too make it a tough choice for the gm who wants to add a third year.

[MagicGM]

yes

[NetsGM]

I added a third option to the poll.

[RaptorsGM]

Well, my vote just changed to option 3. But I already voted option 1.

[GoldenStateGM]

So if you think you found a gem, then you add the year from the start.  You can get his bird rights, but your cap space is likely screwed if the player does not work out.
Although, it does create a whole lot of expiring contracts, unless you are unable to trade the player while he is in his third year...

If not, and your players still gets better, you still have the option of using the MLE on the player.  You have the advantage, since the players loyalty is in the favor of the team who drafted him.

[HornetsGM]

I don't really see much reason not to pick up the third year if you are going to be over the cap... there's little risk involved there... This still inflates the value of early 2nd round picks.
Plus, many people have traded away their second rounders based on the current rules.

I say if you want to resign them, use your MLE. Tough luck if they sign with someone else, but you should have a decent shot at them with the loyalty factor.

[NetsGM]

Plus, many people have traded away their second rounders based on the current rules.

That's why I won't do it until next year, to minimize this affect (we couldn't negate it unless we wait 3 years).

there's little risk involved there... This still inflates the value of early 2nd round picks.

I agree.

I say if you want to resign them, use your MLE. Tough luck if they sign with someone else, but you should have a decent shot at them with the loyalty factor.

I agree.

[SpursGM-old]

First, the loyalty factor plays in only if you assume it is higher than the greed or play for winner factors.

Second, if you have to add the third year right after the draft & before TC then how do you know if you found a gem?   You might as well just add a third year to all second rounders.  It would take at least the first TC to know if the player is a gem or not.

I would suggest that managers have the option after the first TC but before the first sim to offer an extension.   Also I think the 1 year contract should be substantially more than the MLE.  More in line with 75% of the max allowed.

[HeatGM]

i voted for the first option because when you have a steal in the second round...you deserve a reward... if his performing well in his playing time then there should be an option to extend his contract...

[CelticsGM]

The option makes sense when it can be used after the 2nd year during the resign period - thats when teams in any sport make such decisions.

The salary for the third year should not be more than the LLE. Why punish a team who finds a gem there ? You have 1st rounders for much less in the 3rd and 4th year as well (from 2.0 to 3.5 mio in the 4th year) - so why charge 4.5mio for a 2nd rounder ???



Overall it would value the 2nd round A LOT MORE since teams would not only try to get rid of 2nd rd picks (especially below #35) but really start to scout people and also keep them on rosters for development.