Sim 7 Discussion

[KingsGM-old]

IMO it is not a good idea to start "altering" the draft classes. My guess is that the program has some sort of balancing logarithim that maintains a fairly stable midpoint and standard deviation for the player pool.

I think you are giving this program far too much credit.

In these 3 "years" I have been involved that seems to be the case. If you start creating super athletes then the program through training camps, injuries or early retirments will push the overall player rankings back towards a norm. Either that or we will get to a point where even the 12th man on rosters will have fantastic ratings but never see playing time to determine if the ratings are a true reflection of their productivity.

First, I don't think anybody's talking about super athletes.  But more realistic to nba drafts.  The ROY this year is going to be a 13/8 player.  And he really has no competition.  Look at what guy's like LeBron, Stoudemire, Carmelo, Wade and Bosh are doing in their first, and especially they're 2nd years.

2nd, many leagues use player-created drafts.  In fact, heavyreign has made it easy for people to make draft files.  Most leagues do it to get "real" players into the pool, which I'm not going to do (would rather have fictional).  But IMO right now it's not representative of what the draft should be.

But hey, I really don't care.  My draft picks won't be worth jack for the foreseable future.

     

[NetsGM]

... and who cares if the Celtics stink for another 2 or three years ...

Hey, I'm trying to stick up for ya here.

IMO it is not a good idea to start "altering" the draft classes. My guess is that the program has some sort of balancing logarithim that maintains a fairly stable midpoint and standard deviation for the player pool.

I think you are giving this program far too much credit.

In these 3 "years" I have been involved that seems to be the case. If you start creating super athletes then the program through training camps, injuries or early retirments will push the overall player rankings back towards a norm. Either that or we will get to a point where even the 12th man on rosters will have fantastic ratings but never see playing time to determine if the ratings are a true reflection of their productivity.

First, I don't think anybody's talking about super athletes.  But more realistic to nba drafts.  The ROY this year is going to be a 13/8 player.  And he really has no competition.  Look at what guy's like LeBron, Stoudemire, Carmelo, Wade and Bosh are doing in their first, and especially they're 2nd years.

2nd, many leagues use player-created drafts.  In fact, heavyreign has made it easy for people to make draft files.  Most leagues do it to get "real" players into the pool, which I'm not going to do (would rather have fictional).  But IMO right now it's not representative of what the draft should be.

But hey, I really don't care.  My draft picks won't be worth jack for the foreseable future.

     

Not gonna happen here.  They're still going to be ficticious players.  If you want real players, join a different league.

[RaptorsGM]

Nets, I gotta say, I agree with everything you've said in these posts.

[NetsGM]

Nets, I gotta say, I agree with everything you've said in these posts.

Yao sucks.

[RaptorsGM]

Nets, I gotta say, Raptors 2 vs. Nets 0.

[NetsGM]

actually, i believe it's 3.

[RaptorsGM]

actually, i believe it's 3.

 

[BucksGM]

I think altering the draft is a terrible idea, personally.

So the proposition is that we have the commissioner arbitrarily decide how many players get changed, which of these players gets changed, and what attributes get changed?  

Even if it was a sensible idea, I don't think it could ever be implemented.  Why even bother?

[NetsGM]

So the proposition is that we have the commissioner arbitrarily decide how many players get changed, which of these players gets changed, and what attributes get changed?

what, do you think a panel should decide who gets changed?  

before the season begins, I'd look at the draft file.  if the top of the draft is terrible, like these past 2 years, edit a few players to make top prospects.  Actually make players that teams can build around.

Take a look at this past draft.  Sonics got 3 of 4 top picks.  Any of those players you'd build a team around?  Any of those players you'd trade Kobe for, straight up?  AND THEY WERE THE 3 BEST PLAYERS!

Basically, I don't think the draft is doing what it's supposed to do, which is give the terrible teams a chance to get a franchise player (not every year, but at least an all-star).  

Any body in this draft look like a player that can turn a franchise around?

I'd edit the players before the first sim of the year.  It would then be up the entire year, so everybody had ample time to look at it.  Obviously, this year's draft wouldn't be altered, as it's already been posted.

And if it's an issue with me knowing which players have been altered, and knowing their true potentials, I wouldn't draft any of the players I've viewed.  Even if I had the #1 pick.

And if it's an issue of me not keeping my word, well, if I really wanted to I could view everybody's true ratings.  It's just an issue where you have to have trust, if not the league will fall apart.

Even if it was a sensible idea, I don't think it could ever be implemented.

It's implemented in pretty much every FBB league.  Most commish's build their own draft files (or have someone else build a draft file, and the commish's go over it).

[RaptorsGM]

My take is that yes, some players shoud be edited, yes Bods should still be eligable to draft those players, yes we should throw a party for me when I win the titiel

[CavsGM]

My take is that yes, some players shoud be edited, yes Bods should still be eligable to draft those players, yes we should throw a party for me when I win the titiel

My take is that yes, you should learn how to spell "eligable" and yes, you should get a team that's actually good...

[CavsGM]

I'd edit the players before the first sim of the year. It would then be up the entire year, so everybody had ample time to look at it.

As long as you don't trade for the 1st pick right before the draft and then edit a single player for you to draft, then it's cool...

[NetsGM]

As long as you don't trade for the 1st pick right before the draft and then edit a single player for you to draft, then it's cool... Laughing

Yeah, he edited him AFTER he traded for the pick too.

*rolls eyes*

What a douche.

[Iverson2Korver43]

lol, I went from 9th in the east to 13th in one sim...i hope that pick does you well

And I have your first...     But I could be interested in Melo...

[Iverson2Korver43]

Well, it looks like my team is finally coming around and is making a big push for the play-offs(6-2 in this sim)...  Everyone has been playing their role, but there still might be a little shake-up in mo-town...