2006 SSBA Champions....

[RaptorsGM]

you know, had you not traded them a 22/11 c pf on a rookie contract we might not be having this conversation.  

But hey, not that I didn't tell you so

Ahh for the love of...

Whatever.  

[NetsGM]

It has relevance when complaining about how good a team is.  Can't complain about something you created.  It's like Jim O'brien complaining about youth.  Well, YOU decided to play the youth and put them in prominent roles by trading eric snow and cutting glenn robinson, and not playing skinner.

[RaptorsGM]

It has relevance when complaining about how good a team is.  Can't complain about something you created.  It's like Jim O'brien complaining about youth.  Well, YOU decided to play the youth and put them in prominent roles by trading eric snow and cutting glenn robinson, and not playing skinner.

Yes, I can agree. That's really all he has done for his team, besides that trade with you (so you had a hand to ).

There was no possible way to predict that Araujo would have B potential, and improve so much in TC. If the ratings makers had been on the ball at all, he would have had Z potential like he does in real life, which is why he is such a bust.

[RaptorsGM]

But hey, you called Hoffa, and you called Mercer. I don't know how you do it, because both of those were completely random, but from now on when you talk I listen.

[NetsGM]

Well, Hoffa was easy.  Outside of realizing he was a 20/10 player from the getgo, I just looked at all the other players in the league.  I even showed you then.  There were 3 players in the league on rosters with F potential, all rookies (Hoffa, Luke Jackson, Donta Smith).  2 of the 3 players in the entire league with F potential are rookie lottery picks?  Sounded fishy to me.  Jackson now has a C potential and Hoffa a B.  Donta moved up to a D.

Hoffa's B potential did throw me for a loop though.  I figured C.  But I thought it was a bad trade even with an F potential.

Mason Mercer I had no idea he would improve.  Any praise I heaped on him was based off of his C+   B   B+   A- with C potential ratings before the draft.  I called him over Ellis not because of potential increase, but because of his skill in areas I highly regarded.  Had I known his potential would have been what it was, I probably would have used the 3 pick to trade down to the Bulls or Spurs and get him.  

That's why the draft is such a crapshoot.

[RaptorsGM]

You were right about Hoffa, and it was my bad. He had a B= inside at the time, which is good for 20 ppg. I was thinking he was a 15 and 7 guy. Turns out he was 20/10.

I'm not gonna lose any sleep about it. How many times in the history of the SSBA have the Mavs had a fantastic regular season then lost in the first round?

[NetsGM]

We'll see.  The key to the Mavs right now is Dampier.  He's ridiculously overrated in this league (2nd only to Dirk's defense).  The program obviously has no concept of a contract drive  

Hopefully he'll start to decline in 2-3 years, then they become human.

[RaptorsGM]

His backcourt is exploitable.

if someone like you or I lands Amare in the offseason...

I think a front court of Mihm, Boozer, Amare could handle Dampier, Araujo, Dirk.

And I think a front court of Dalembert, Okafor and Amare could handle them too.

Plus, both of us should have better backcourts and better depth.

[HornetsGM]

His backcourt is exploitable.

Good thing for the league he turned down my trade offer of Larry Hughes   (where he wouldn't have lost a starter)

[PacersGM]

let me guess. you wanted all his youth  

[HornetsGM]

How often does a guy with 76 loyalty test the FA market?
The only top FAs that I see testing the waters are Redd and Gooden, and God love you if you give Gooden a max deal.
Shaq might come out if he demands a giant contract and the Heat refuse to pay up. I don't see why they would do that though.

Last year, and Nets, you can correct me if I'm wrong, EVERY top FA made an offer to resign with their team. It's just that Z and Hughes were rejected.

[NetsGM]

Neither Hughes nor Z made offers, actually.  I remember in our last year in the old league, LeBron didn't give the Cavs an offer (we never actually got around to that FA though, lol).  Yao didn't the year before (even though he ended up resigning with his prior team, for the max).

It happens where the top players move in FA.  Just not often.

If I had to pick one guy with the best chance of moving it's Amare.  High loyaltie's high, but his play for winner is higher.  But it would take a near collapse for the Wiz to not make the playoffs.

Usually, it is the 2nd tier guys whose old teams aren't quite willing to max out.

[HornetsGM]

let me guess. you wanted all his youth  

Nah, 1 player and expirings.

[MavsGM]

Well, if I added Hughes, then people will complaint more.

[HornetsGM]

Well, if I added Hughes, then people will complaint more.

haha, that's what I mean  
When I was talking to you about the deal, I was like, "man, if this goes through, people will be pissed at me."