USA lost again

[BlazersGM]

maybe i dont remember, but only time USA sent strongest team was at 1992 olympics or did i miss something ?

[KingsGM-old]

Yeah you did. Or you're just maybe suffering from amnesia.

[BlazersGM]

then which one was it ? 94 ?

[CelticsGM]

In 92 the US sent MJ, Bird, Barkley, Magic.

Clearly not the best NBA players at the time, apart from MJ and Barkley, but the opponents just lay down in awe ... and took photographs of US dunks instead of defending those.
 


If you asked ANYBODY in the US before this tournament, they would have told you Lebron, Dwyane, Carmelo, Bosh, Brand, Paul and company ARE the best the US has to offer. So forget your superstars list, last i checked these ARE supposed to be the current superstars, not washed-up vets like AI, Shaq and KG.

[KingsGM-old]

You really have no clue.

[CelticsGM]

And funny the misery for the US didn't stop until right before halftime in the 3rd place game.

I had the believe the loss would be a wakeup call towards team oriented balling but i guess i was wrong.

Ginobili received that phantom 3rd foul (he was about a yard away from the fouled player) with Argentinia leading by 3 just 20 seconds before the break (and didn't play the whole 3rd quarter) and big man Scola picking up his 4th right after halftime (and didn't play the 3rd thereafter), that's when the momentum swung towards the US.

Wade put them on his back and went one on 5 for the rest of the quarter, got a 10pt lead, and from then on even a few team plays worked. Maybe they should have let LeBron and Wade go one on whoever every time, wouldn't have hurt the US chances i suppose ...

[KingsGM-old]

Ginobilli? What a overated piece of crap.

[BlazersGM]

This is one of few things i completely agree with Kings, a completely overrated piece of shit.

[CelticsGM]

Forget Gino individually, he couldn't beat one US player one on one, but he's so important for the Argentines team game and ball movement, opening up the game with his drives and kickouts. And his defense, taking the charges, too, making ARG better on both ends of the floor.

btw, Nocioni had another nice game, can't wait to see him back on the Bulls.

[KingsGM-old]

Ok, nough of this nonsense. It's too late here, i'm going to sleep.

I'll just say one more thing;

EEEARVIN

MAAAAAAAAGIC

JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHNSOOOOOONNN!!!!!!!

[BlazersGM]

Forget Gino individually, he couldn't beat one US player one on one, but he's so important for the Argentines team game and ball movement, opening up the game with his drives and kickouts. And his defense, taking the charges, too, making ARG better on both ends of the floor.

btw, Nocioni had another nice game, can't wait to see him back on the Bulls.

We all saw how important he is in that game, he couldnt make a single shot and his ego told him he's better then all his fellow argentinians so he was basically the fault why they lost, his selfishness while others played good, even coach put him on bench when he saw guy thinks he's MJ (not Earvin KingsGM), Argentina would have a good chance in that game if Manu was not on pitch that game.

[CelticsGM]

We all saw how important he is in that game, he couldnt make a single shot and his ego told him he's better then all his fellow argentinians so he was basically the fault why they lost, his selfishness while others played good, even coach put him on bench when he saw guy thinks he's MJ (not Earvin KingsGM), Argentina would have a good chance in that game if Manu was not on pitch that game.

I have no idea which game you were watching, but WITH Ginobili the Argentines led by 3 just before halftime (when he had totake a seat until the 4th), WITHOUT Ginobili they were down by 10 in the third.

He might play too much one on one,but he undenieably makes them a better team.

But maybe his true value can't be judged by americans (or people watching too much NBA) since that whole team basketball thing isn't really understood there ...

[BlazersGM]

he shot like 4-15 in that game, missed like 8 shots before making last one.