Knicks resign

[PacersGM]

i guess we are talking here about 2 different things.

First imo Ivan did nothing wrong to suggest he was tanking. He is one of the more active guys here and showed us once that he can rebuild a team. The second part is he should have at least post DC charts and put a little more effort into his team this season. But we all know Ivan is very emotional and if he had no trust into his team he is too quick down.
I am sure the knicks at least had 3 posts with praying for number 1 pick and did nothing else the whole season to improve the team. If Ivans wish for a good guy is already tanking, i can´t see the point.
As bods already posted there were several other gms who tanked on purpose to get a better pick during the season. Ivans only fault was he didn´t care enough to post a DC. Which is bad enough imo but clearly no sign of tanking.
We should leave it to every gm if he wants to rebuild through trades or draft and FA.
Everyone knew that Ivan was aiming for one of the higher picks and getting as many cap room as possible.
And there is some kind of tanking even in the real nba. The spurs did it in the season they got duncan and the cavs also did it for LB. Some teams even admitted that they didn´t care anymore after ALLstar break because of the chance to get a superstar.

And a note to TOM: i did post all DC charts. they reason why i didn´t change it even after my starters went down, was because i wanted to test who would get the backups mins left from the cpu. It was pure luck that i still won so many games.

[CelticsGM]

That about summarizes what I wanted to express all along. Thanks for putting it into readable format.
 

[KingsGM-old]

Pacers read my mind.

100% accurate post.

[SpursGM-old]

The spurs did it in the season they got duncan

As a true NBA Spurs fan I find this offensive.  The year the Spurs "tanked" just happen to be the year Robinson played only a handful of games and Elliot missed around half the season.  When the best player on the floor is Avery Johnson surrounded by guys who were lucky to be drawing a NBA salary it is difficult to win many games.

[CelticsGM]

The spurs did it in the season they got duncan

As a true NBA Spurs fan I find this offensive.  The year the Spurs "tanked" just happen to be the year Robinson played only a handful of games and Elliot missed around half the season.  When the best player on the floor is Avery Johnson surrounded by guys who were lucky to be drawing a NBA salary it is difficult to win many games.

... so you mean they couldn't have orchestrated a few trades to make them better and win more games then?

[NetsGM]

... so you mean they couldn't have orchestrated a few trades to make them better and win more games then?

Still missing the point.  It would be somewhat the same if the coach decided he wasn't going to show up for the 2nd half of the season and make Avery Johnson a player-coach. 

Ivans only fault was he didn´t care enough to post a DC. Which is bad enough imo but clearly no sign of tanking.

Tanking is not only the actions you take but the inactions you take as well.  If you don't care about winning (which Ivan has said multiple times) and don't do your job that is necessary to win, then you're taking actions to lose.  He didn't post his DC because he didn't care, and he didn't care because he didn't want to win.  Had winning been a priority, he would have posted his DC after trades to get the best possible lineup out there.  Tanking can be inactions as well as actions.  And Ivan posting one DC all year certainly aided his quest to get Magic Johnson.

But this issue is dead.  And this thread is locked, as we could go on about this forever.

[CelticsGM]

hey, hey, hey, Larry Brown did exactly that last season.
 

[NetsGM]

Which I would call tanking.



If Isiah didn't trade their first round pick for Eddy Curry