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Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 18, 2005, 07:02:04 PM
Well, I'm all done trading now. Period, unless a great offer comes along for Deng.

And I know I won't likely contend this year. So I'm looking ahead to FA next year. There are 5 big players - Shaq, Yao, Big Ben, Amare and Gooden, that are all ready to come out, I hope.

Probably Shaq and Yao will resign. Even if Shaq got the max from a team other than the Heat, he would be taking a MASSIVE pay cut. I don't see that happening. As for Yao - he has a loyalty rating of 95, I'm sorry to say. He'll probably re-sign too.

That leaves us with 3, maybe a few more big guns.

Who is gonna have enough space to offer 1 or more of the guys big contracts? Remember, when thinking about cap space next year, you have to add what your player will make NEXT year, not what they are making this year.

I will have just under 23 mil. Enough to offer 2 max contracts to youngster.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: MavsGM on April 18, 2005, 07:16:50 PM
I will be 53mil. :D


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 18, 2005, 07:51:57 PM
lol, ok, so I don't have to worry about the Mavs then :)

But man, you're team is awesome.


Title: sadasdasd
Post by: HeatGM on April 18, 2005, 08:54:26 PM
ill be about 20 mil salary cap free for next season  :D  but ill resign ol shaq anyway so dont worry  :D that would probably leave me 10 mil to spend on FA  :D


Title: Re: sadasdasd
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 18, 2005, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: HeatGM
ill be about 20 mil salary cap free for next season  :D  but ill resign ol shaq anyway so dont worry  :D that would probably leave me 10 mil to spend on FA  :D


 :shock: You think you're going to get Shaq for 10 million? You realize that he will probably ask for a cotract starting at a 10% raise from what he made this year...so like 35 million to start...I think that is how it works.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: CavsGM on April 18, 2005, 09:19:37 PM
Not me, that's for sure.


Title: Re: sadasdasd
Post by: HeatGM on April 18, 2005, 09:25:22 PM
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ill be about 20 mil salary cap free for next season  :D  but ill resign ol shaq anyway so dont worry  :D that would probably leave me 10 mil to spend on FA  :D


 :shock: You think you're going to get Shaq for 10 million? You realize that he will probably ask for a cotract starting at a 10% raise from what he made this year...so like 35 million to start...I think that is how it works.


really??? in real NBA it's not allowed anymore to have a salary that much....i hope it applies to this sim  :D


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: SonicsGM on April 18, 2005, 09:26:50 PM
I will have roughly 40 million in salary space before the draft, and roughly 30 million after the draft.

I will offer up some really nice contracts, but, sadly, my high ranking will take a big tumble from last year when I was in the finals.

Expect the Sonics to be a player in the second-tier level of the FA group


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 18, 2005, 09:28:04 PM
Oh yeah, you gave a bunch of 1 year contracts :)

And heat- i really have no idea, but it wont be 10 mil./


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: LakersGM-old on April 18, 2005, 10:33:03 PM
i have about 18 million maybe 17 in cap space.


Title: Re: sadasdasd
Post by: PacersGM on April 19, 2005, 03:11:23 AM
Quote from: HeatGM

really??? in real NBA it's not allowed anymore to have a salary that much....i hope it applies to this sim  :D


where did you read this?
last year KG´s contract was only cut because he wanted some support.
It is still allowed to increase the sal of a player. I think shaq is looking for a two or three year starting at 30 mill in real NBA.  In a sim league you maybe lucky an get him for something in the range of 15-20mill a year.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on April 19, 2005, 07:23:10 AM
you're allowed to start them at 120% of their previous contract, same as the nba.

I'll have a little over 11 million.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 19, 2005, 11:24:28 AM
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you're allowed to start them at 120% of their previous contract, same as the nba.

I'll have a little over 11 million.


Which will be like 40 mil  :shock:


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: BucksGM on April 19, 2005, 02:39:39 PM
i'll have more than enough to offer maxes.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 05, 2005, 03:12:19 PM
So what is everyones exact total? mine is in my signature.

Remember that the cap is 43.8 million, and that when you are adding contract s you have to add what a player will make next year.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: HornetsGM on May 05, 2005, 03:57:28 PM
I believe I have about 9 mil, not enough to offer a max deal, but it won't stop me from trying for the big fish


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: CavsGM on May 05, 2005, 03:59:03 PM
With Z on my team, I won't be seeing cap space any time soon...


Title: d
Post by: GrizzliesGM on May 06, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
i hate to break it to you but Amare offered to resign with his team.


Title: Re: d
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 12:43:20 PM
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i hate to break it to you but Amare offered to resign with his team.


Break it to who?


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 12:49:27 PM
Hm...wonder if my win rating will go up if I advance in the playoffs?

Anyway, with a 63, that's very high.  Next highest (of anyone with cap space) is Hornets at 59, but as of right now he doesn't have room for a max contract.  Next highest with room for a max contract is 49, I believe.

Sonics dropped all the way down to an 18 :)

Should, hopefully, essentially make it a 2 horse race for both Shaq and Yao (with it between me and Miami for Shaq and me and Houston for Yao).


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 06, 2005, 12:52:57 PM
meh i wouldn't rely on that greed/loyalti/play for winner things one bit, not after the webber,yao and amare incidents


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 12:56:39 PM
I think decisions in FA re-signing are different than decisions in Free Agency.

Some players deciding to test the market and not offer an extension doesn't mean they aren't looking to play there, just that they want to test the market.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:29:33 PM
Well, it sucks that I'm down to 48. That blows. But oh well, I'll still try. Yao might want to come to a spot where he knows he will start.

Since the Nets already have 2 beasts at PF and C, and since Bods can't tell Yao that he would trade one of them, then i might have a shot.

Look at last FA period and my MLE fiasco. So many players took the same or less money on a team with a much lower win rating, because I guess they felt they had a chance to start.

Maybe it has something to do with me being Toronto, too. No one in real life wants to come here. I'm being serious.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:31:48 PM
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Since the Nets already have 2 beasts at PF and C, and since Bods can't tell Yao that he would trade one of them, then i might have a shot.


Just in case that happens I'm changing Both Emeka's and Dalembert's positions away from C :)


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:33:53 PM
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Since the Nets already have 2 beasts at PF and C, and since Bods can't tell Yao that he would trade one of them, then i might have a shot.


Just in case that happens I'm changing Both Emeka's and Dalembert's positions away from C :)


So we'll have to see if Yao is stupid or not :)


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 06, 2005, 01:36:13 PM
What boggles me is that the win ratings are calculated, and the playoffs are still going on.
How can the playoffs not be involved in the win rating?
Of course, I complain because the last two years I have upset a higher ranked opponent...  My teams must be scrappy   :P


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:38:10 PM
I think I figured it out.

Look at all the teams who haven't won a playoff game.  Their win rating is exactly this years win total (including raptors, who got swept in the playoffs).

All the teams who won a series their win rating is this years win total + 10.

So, I think, win rating = This years win total + (series won x 10)

So I guess win ratings will be recalculated after each round.

So, that means the highest possible win rating is 122?


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:46:23 PM
So If you win the next playoff round, you're gonna have your choice of FA's. That would put you at 73. it would require 2 more series wins by the Hornets to catch you.

Damn.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:48:46 PM
We'll see Sunday.  That's what it looks like to me right now though.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:50:03 PM
Ok, Nets, if I sent you this:

Yao - max
Shaq - 3 year 40 mil (whatever)
Gooden-max

Is that an order it would go through, or does order matter? Because that way I would have a chance at getting Yao and Gooden or Shaq and Gooden.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 06, 2005, 01:50:47 PM
Interesting...  Wish it had a little more history to it, like partial inclusion of last year's score...


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 01:54:09 PM
Raptors: that I have no idea of, and I haven't been able to find any documentation on it.  I enter in all the offers for all the teams, then hit submit.  It doesn't go offer by offer with me, so I don't know if order entered matters.  I don't believe it does.

Warriors: Yeah, it would be nice if it counted a little.  But in reality, a teams ability to win next year isn't much affected by prior years.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: PacersGM on May 06, 2005, 01:55:41 PM
i am pretty sure that the order doesn´t matter. If you do your offers as you mentioned you are risking to loose all your cap space for gooden.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 06, 2005, 02:02:29 PM
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, so I don't know if order entered matters.  I don't believe it does.

Warriors: Yeah, it would be nice if it counted a little.  But in reality, a teams ability to win next year isn't much affected by prior years.

I disagree...  The Clips are notorious for losing in reality, and no free agents really want to go there...
Probably the same with the Hornets, now, after the past 2-3 years.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: NetsGM on May 06, 2005, 02:05:38 PM
Well, 2 things.
1) I think a lot of that has to do with ownership (clips and sterling, hornets and that guy I can't remember).
2) I think a 50 win season in clipperville would change FA's post judgements.  Look at chicago, they're the talk of the NBA this year.  Do you think Bobby Simmons will bolt LA, after even moderate success this year?


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: SunsGM on May 06, 2005, 02:10:29 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
Well, 2 things.
1) I think a lot of that has to do with ownership (clips and sterling, hornets and that guy I can't remember).
2) I think a 50 win season in clipperville would change FA's post judgements.  Look at chicago, they're the talk of the NBA this year.  Do you think Bobby Simmons will bolt LA, after even moderate success this year?


1) Youre thinking of George Shinn the NO Hoerets owner

2) Un;ess simmons wants to go play for less, he'll probally have to go back to clipp land


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 06, 2005, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
Raptors: that I have no idea of, and I haven't been able to find any documentation on it.  I enter in all the offers for all the teams, then hit submit.  It doesn't go offer by offer with me, so I don't know if order entered matters.  I don't believe it does.

Warriors: Yeah, it would be nice if it counted a little.  But in reality, a teams ability to win next year isn't much affected by prior years.


Ok, thanks.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: SonicsGM on May 07, 2005, 04:27:06 AM
Quote from: GoldenStateGM
What boggles me is that the win ratings are calculated, and the playoffs are still going on.
How can the playoffs not be involved in the win rating?
Of course, I complain because the last two years I have upset a higher ranked opponent...  My teams must be scrappy   :P


I dropped from a 62 to an 18!!!

I will have no shot at FA this year.  Let's build to the big class of 09!


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 07, 2005, 09:59:09 AM
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Quote from: GoldenStateGM
What boggles me is that the win ratings are calculated, and the playoffs are still going on.
How can the playoffs not be involved in the win rating?
Of course, I complain because the last two years I have upset a higher ranked opponent...  My teams must be scrappy   :P


I dropped from a 62 to an 18!!!

I will have no shot at FA this year.  Let's build to the big class of 09!


I was looking at 2011. It's going to be HUGE. Paul Pierce, Garrett Petit, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson, Rasheed Wallace, Tanner Houbergs, Shawn Marion, Mason Mercer, Oscar Ferry, Steve Nash, Ron Artest, Jamaal Tinsely, Baron Davis, Kevin Garnett, Lamar Odom, Elton Brand, Mike Bibby.

Yeah. Wow.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: HawksGM on May 07, 2005, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: SonicsGM


I dropped from a 62 to an 18!!!

I will have no shot at FA this year.  Let's build to the big class of 09!


I almost had a 2nd straight 60 loss season and my win rating is at 24....


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 07, 2005, 10:10:44 AM
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I dropped from a 62 to an 18!!!

I will have no shot at FA this year.  Let's build to the big class of 09!


I almost had a 2nd straight 60 loss season and my win rating is at 24....


Because you won 24 games and he won 18.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: HawksGM on May 07, 2005, 10:42:27 AM
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I dropped from a 62 to an 18!!!

I will have no shot at FA this year.  Let's build to the big class of 09!


I almost had a 2nd straight 60 loss season and my win rating is at 24....


Because you won 24 games and he won 18.


well, after the first season my win rating was 36 and I didn't win 36 games...maybe that was after I got the # 1 pick who knows


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: HornetsGM on May 07, 2005, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
I think I figured it out.

Look at all the teams who haven't won a playoff game.  Their win rating is exactly this years win total (including raptors, who got swept in the playoffs).

All the teams who won a series their win rating is this years win total + 10.

So, I think, win rating = This years win total + (series won x 10)

So I guess win ratings will be recalculated after each round.

So, that means the highest possible win rating is 122?


The heat didn't have anything near 122 after they won the championship last year.

Even though wins matter, I still think that there is an element of randomness involved. It's like the draft lotto.


Title: Who has cap space next year?
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 07, 2005, 11:04:28 AM
The Heat didn't win 82 games in the regular season either.