Title: Draft Preview Post by: ClippersGM-old on April 07, 2005, 02:26:40 PM I know some started this in the TC thread but I thought starting a new thread would make it easier to look through.
It is not a great class, some good players though. The thing that I am questionning is the hometown. It has a NBA team name. I guess that was not the case in last draft. I could be wrong... So what does this mean? What influence does this have? Funny thing.... a player that has hometown Lakers... shouldn't he have Clippers as well. Something like hometown Los Angeles would make more sense right?! Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 07, 2005, 02:27:46 PM http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/rules.htm#fa_loyalty
and it was in the last draft.[/quote] Title: Draft Preview Post by: ClippersGM-old on April 07, 2005, 02:54:55 PM Yeah I knew about the loyalty thing. But that does not matter when drafting. The player does not have a choice... he has to go to where he is drafted.
So does it make an impact on the way he plays? Quote and it was in the last draft. I knew hometown was there. But was it also posted in a nba team name like 'hometown: clippers'. I don't remember that. Title: Draft Preview Post by: HawksGM on April 07, 2005, 02:59:00 PM i think this draft class is not near as good as the last, but they are about 7 impact players in it
Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 07, 2005, 03:41:01 PM I'm fairly certain that it only affects signing/re-signing, not how they play.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: RaptorsGM on April 07, 2005, 04:28:39 PM I'm going to look to trade my pick.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: GoldenStateGM on April 07, 2005, 04:30:49 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM I'm going to look to trade my pick. Your looking to trade?!? Please, allow my shock to dissipate... lol... :P Title: Draft Preview Post by: RaptorsGM on April 07, 2005, 04:32:37 PM :)
Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 07, 2005, 05:01:07 PM Much, much deeper draft. Just not as high on potential.
There's only one person who could have been a top 5 pick last year. And his defense scares me. But if you're looking to get a guy who can come in and contribute, this is your draft. Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 07, 2005, 05:03:18 PM http://ssba.phillyarena.net/players/player594.htm
My first round target. Don't anyone take him from me. Title: Draft Preview Post by: RaptorsGM on April 07, 2005, 05:05:55 PM WICKED last name, FUNDERBURKE
Title: Draft Preview Post by: GoldenStateGM on April 07, 2005, 05:05:58 PM Scoooooooonie...
Fuuuuunderbuerke... Definitely a crwd favorite... Of course, he will probably go up 5 in TC and jump to an A potential... Just for the name... Title: Draft Preview Post by: ClippersGM-old on April 07, 2005, 05:52:08 PM Quote from: NetsGM And his defense scares me. Who needs defense anyway? Just score more points than your opponent. :roll: :lol: Title: Draft Preview Post by: CavsGM on April 24, 2005, 03:37:17 PM After reviewing this upcoming draft class, I noticed a few things...
- SG is the deepest position, easily. No stars, but plenty of very solid players. And a lot of them have A or B potential, as well. Not bad... - Center is the weakest position. I would say that there are only about 5 or so that will be worthy of a spot on a depth chart next season. But there are a couple that will be very good players. - Not near the top talent that there was in last year's draft. You won't be seeing any Oscar Ferrys or Garret Pettits coming out this year. - No single player that is the sure #1 pick. I see several different players that could be worthy of getting picked first overall. But that doesn't matter, anyway. Tanner Houbregs, anyone? :lol: Title: Draft Preview Post by: RaptorsGM on April 24, 2005, 03:41:17 PM I think Chase Hoiberg is a clear cut first pick.
Only SEVEN players that play B+ or better defense. poor. This draft class sucks. Glad I traded both picks. Title: Draft Preview Post by: CavsGM on April 24, 2005, 03:50:18 PM Hoiberg does have a good chance of being #1, but I also like Roberto Dickau there, too. And Bailey Snow and English are both excellent prospects at PG. One of them could get taken first. Depends on which team gets it. Since Seattle has like 23 first round picks, yeah it probably will be Hoiberg.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: RaptorsGM on April 24, 2005, 03:54:59 PM Quote from: CavsGM Hoiberg does have a good chance of being #1, but I also like Roberto Dickau there, too. And Bailey Snow and English are both excellent prospects at PG. One of them could get taken first. Depends on which team gets it. Since Seattle has like 23 first round picks, yeah it probably will be Hoiberg. Lol. So true. Title: Draft Preview Post by: HornetsGM on April 24, 2005, 04:02:59 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM I think Chase Hoiberg is a clear cut first pick. He has the same ratings as Jerome James with half the size; it just proves how disappointing this class is. I like English and Lenard, but I weigh scouted potential more highly than most people. Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 24, 2005, 04:03:18 PM If I had a top pick like I did last year, Id probably be looking at English. Take him and hope his defense improves.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 24, 2005, 04:04:34 PM Hoiberg reminds me of Bosh. In the sim, not real life.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: HawksGM on April 24, 2005, 04:06:02 PM Quote from: NetsGM If I had a top pick like I did last year, Id probably be looking at English. Take him and hope his defense improves. ditto, he's also from ATL, producing possibly the 1st 2 #1 picks Title: Draft Preview Post by: CavsGM on April 24, 2005, 04:15:32 PM Quote from: NetsGM If I had a top pick like I did last year, Id probably be looking at English. Take him and hope his defense improves. A- handles to go along with A potential. That is amazing. If nothing improves but his defense, he'll be a top five PG. And that's just if only his D improves. Title: Draft Preview Post by: HornetsGM on April 24, 2005, 04:21:27 PM I see him as a Steve Nash type guy.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: LakersGM-old on April 24, 2005, 06:20:42 PM i think the top prospects are:
chase hoiberg roberto dickau Nicklaus English Bailey Snow outside of those 4 there arent many guys that can step in and help right away. there are a lot of project guys in this draft. Title: Draft Preview Post by: GoldenStateGM on April 25, 2005, 09:49:26 AM This class is better then most are giving it credit for, I think.
No clear cut top pick like last year, but you have 3 point guards who will likely start next year : Nicklaus English, Bailey Snow, and Al Garces. Dickau is a 15-20 ppg scorer right now, and if his defense goes up, he will be quite good. Hoiberg is already an A- B- player, and if he goes up at all in TC he will be very, very good. This draft is just as deep as last year's, just with no dominant players at the top. Some really good players in the 15-25 range, imo.... Title: Draft Preview Post by: CavsGM on April 25, 2005, 08:29:03 PM Yeah, it looks like there will be some pretty good players that can fall. This draft is just deep. No big superstars, but a lot of depth.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: HornetsGM on April 25, 2005, 09:36:04 PM last year's draft was deeper according to my chart. The 30th ranked player on my chart had a 2.33 GPA, this year the 30th has a 2.28 GPA.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 25, 2005, 10:39:58 PM My chart disagrees with your chart.
My chart ranks the 30th ranked player in this years draft as high as the 23rd in last years draft. It's close to that in both readiness and overall (potential included). but each rates things a little differently. Title: Draft Preview Post by: GoldenStateGM on April 25, 2005, 10:45:02 PM My chart is more like dabods chart...
the top 1-10 is a little weaker, 11-20 is better then last year, and 21-29 is about even with last year... This class is just guard heavy, while last years had better big men... Title: Draft Preview Post by: HornetsGM on April 25, 2005, 11:18:22 PM Quote from: NetsGM My chart disagrees with your chart. My chart ranks the 30th ranked player in this years draft as high as the 23rd in last years draft. It's close to that in both readiness and overall (potential included). but each rates things a little differently. I am only talking about raw numbers, and I include potential. I haven't looked at it based on readiness. Do you put your numbers into GPA? Like C+ = 2.3, etc.? If so, I don't see how it could be that much different. Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 26, 2005, 01:10:21 AM No, I use a different scale.
Title: Draft Preview Post by: SpursGM-old on April 26, 2005, 09:12:50 AM I rate 14 players from last year's draft equal or better than the top ten in this current draft. Then I show 15 players in this draft equal to the next ten in last years. In other words I show the 25th ranked player in each draft as equal. The difference is that 7-20 in this draft are interchangable.
And in ranking them I use a GPA type formula but then weight the different attributes based on position. e.g. point guards have handling and outside weighted higher; centers have inside and defense weighted etc. Title: Draft Preview Post by: HornetsGM on April 26, 2005, 11:45:23 AM This is why I don't trust my drafting skills.... I put everything into the raw GPA, then I "eyeball" it to make my actual rankings.
It would be much better if I could figure out some way to do it all by numbers. It seems like ratings are a pretty inconsistent way to judge actual performance though. Title: Draft Preview Post by: NetsGM on April 26, 2005, 11:51:19 AM eyeballing is generally the best way IMO. I just use my spreadsheet to give me ideas. My spreadsheet will probably give me the 10 guys I consider, but then I pick between them like I normally would.
Even so, after getting my "10" I'll scan through the 100 draftees to make sure I didn't miss one. I haven't found an actual rating system that I fully like. BTW, for my scale I convert the letter grades from 0 to 12 (F or F+ being a 0, D- being a 1, D being a 2, D+ a 3, and so on up through A+, which is a 12). Then I do put more weight in certain attributes, depending on the position. Then obviously highest is best. I have scores for both readiness (without potential) and overall (with potential). For the overall, I don't rate potential equally. A guy with A potential shouldn't get an 11, because he'll never increase in 11 categories over his career. |