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Title: FA day 1 done
Post by: PacersGM on May 22, 2008, 04:27:04 AM
Clippers Sign PG John Stockton for $82.125.000 over 6 years.
Supersonics Sign PG Ian Magliore for $13.000.000 over one year.
Timberwolves Sign PG Spud Webb for $80.728.474 over 6 years.
Knicks Sign PF David Greenwood for $58.206.093 over 3 years.
Nets Sign PG Adam Fortson for $23.205.000 over 4 years.
Knicks Sign PG Maurice Cheeks for $51.738.750 over 3 years.
Magic Sign SG Joe Dumars for $68.437.500 over 5 years.
Lakers Sign PG Sergio Patterson for $4.500.000 over one year.
Spurs Sign PG Tristan Benoit for $10.150.000 over 2 years.
Clippers Sign PF Mike Mitchell for $14.728.119 over one year.
Clippers Sign SF A.C. Green for $105.393.750 over 7 years.
Supersonics Sign C Shane Wedge for $13.000.000 over one year.
Wizards Sign C Bill Cartwright for $13.000.000 over one year.
Heat Sign PG Julio Shireman for $4.500.000 over one year.
Hornets Sign C Manute Bol for $86.231.250 over 6 years.
Cavs Sign C Darren Fleisher for $8.000.000 over one year.
Warriors Sign SF Myles Greiner for $10.800.000 over one year.
Knicks Sign C Tim Mccormick for $36.956.250 over 3 years.
Warriors Sign SG Terry Porter for $4.500.000 over one year.
Rockets Sign C Xavier Stockton for $4.500.000 over one year.
Bucks Sign PF Tom Chambers for $18.915.000 over 3 years.
Timberwolves Sign SG Morris Oyedeji for $4.500.000 over one year.
Wizards Sign SF Jim Paxson for $4.700.000 over one year.
Mavericks Sign SG Samuel Strom for $9.522.678 over 6 years.
Cavs Sign SF Purvis Short for $5.000.000 over one year.
Timberwolves Sign SF Enrique Terpening for $8.000.000 over one year.
Lakers Sign SG Billy Rice for $1.200.000 over one year.
Mavericks Sign SF Julius Shaw for $9.200.000 over 2 years.
Rockets Sign C Jose Siegel for $4.500.001 over one year.
Wizards Sign SF Josue Bellamy for $1.200.000 over one year.
Magic Sign C Nicolas Cooper for $23.205.000 over 4 years.
Spurs Sign C Phil Unseld for $5.400.000 over one year.
Magic Sign SF Lee Johnson for $6.000.000 over 2 years.
Pacers Sign SF David Chamberlain for $5.500.000 over one year.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on May 22, 2008, 04:32:29 AM
No surprise, no one signed with the lowly Pistons...  Too bad for the Hornets, what a loss...  On a side note, looks like the Knicks didn't know about the Hard Salary Cap...


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: PacersGM on May 22, 2008, 04:33:03 AM
well clippers took the big price and kept their main FA.
Knicks overpaid for their FA and are now over the hard cap. they will loose the best available next pick if they can?t get under the hard cap till the end of the season.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on May 22, 2008, 04:42:06 AM
Clipps got extremely lucky...  The only way they sign Stockton is if he signs before Green and Mitchell, and that is exactly what happens...  They hit the lotto on that one...


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on May 22, 2008, 05:11:20 AM
Huge score for the Clippers, signing FA targets 1 and 1A of almost every team. I did everything I could to max my chances of landing either one of them, but no such luck. I guess the silver lining is that they went out west....and that the Hornets dynasty took quite the hit  8)

Not too pleased that Mags left for the west either. This guy is pretty insecure - always with the moderate offers, always one of the first to sign....puts quite the dent in my plans. Big changes for the East today, actually - two top teams losing their floor generals. Ugh.

Anyways, Fortson is a solid addition for me - he's a hell of a defender and rebounder for a guard, so I like that, and he did sign a reasonable deal, so I like that too. He's typically had a decent-to-good A:TO ratio and shoots decent percentages, so right now - in this FA-gone-not-quite-right-for-the-Nets - he's my starter. Pretty excited at the thought of the defense I'll run out there with Dial/Pryz/Jordan/Fortson and Koncak/Majerle coming off the bench.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: SonicsGM on May 22, 2008, 06:37:07 AM
Ian Magloire followed his good buddy Danny Manning to Seattle...nice.

I landed my PG and C on day one...couldn't have asked for anything more.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on May 22, 2008, 07:49:15 AM
Clipps got extremely lucky...  The only way they sign Stockton is if he signs before Green and Mitchell, and that is exactly what happens...  They hit the lotto on that one...

As long as all 3 sign on the same day, it doesn't matter what order they're in (as long as you have roster space for it), iirc.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 22, 2008, 08:03:42 AM
Looks like the Pacific Division is gogin to be a lot better this year, with a lot of talent moving West...


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 22, 2008, 08:15:16 AM
In one day the Hornets lose 2 of their big 3 from the last few seasons. This may significantly change the power in the East....although a one-two punch of Macy and Buck with that frontcourt is still title-contender worthy


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: WizardsGM-old2 on May 22, 2008, 08:25:19 AM
Brought back Bill Cartwright and Paxson for some much needed defensive depth.

Happy to add Bellamy for some height at the forward positions, his D and rebounding will be important off the bench.

An MLE signing left and the Wiz are finished with their FA spending for another season.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 09:20:58 AM
FA is undoubtedly the most flawed part of FBB. I offered the same number of years (6), a buttload more money, have a higher win rating, and have no PGs on my roster, and somehow Stockton signs elsewhere. FBB is completely unrealistic.

But luck giveth, and luck taketh away.

I think I still have a team that will be among the best in the league. Macy can shift to PG, or I may try to trade for one. Back to the drawing board. At least I didn't lose Bol (tremendously overpaying him helped).


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 09:30:26 AM
and that the Hornets dynasty took quite the hit  8)

Lucky you. You'd have no chance against me otherwise.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: KnicksGM-old5 on May 22, 2008, 11:00:18 AM
No surprise, no one signed with the lowly Pistons...  Too bad for the Hornets, what a loss...  On a side note, looks like the Knicks didn't know about the Hard Salary Cap...

I knew. I just miscalculated the max salaries of my FA's. I should have put in actual figures but I got lazy. Now I gotta pay the piper.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: CavsGM on May 22, 2008, 12:29:58 PM
Ian Magloire followed his good buddy Danny Manning to Seattle...nice.

I landed my PG and C on day one...couldn't have asked for anything more.

Damn you, what do you need with a 34 year old. And you already had him for two seasons, I didn't my second season... :P



Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 22, 2008, 01:13:44 PM
FA is undoubtedly the most flawed part of FBB. I offered the same number of years (6), a buttload more money, have a higher win rating, and have no PGs on my roster, and somehow Stockton signs elsewhere. FBB is completely unrealistic.

But luck giveth, and luck taketh away.

I think I still have a team that will be among the best in the league. Macy can shift to PG, or I may try to trade for one. Back to the drawing board. At least I didn't lose Bol (tremendously overpaying him helped).


Oh boo hoo hoo  :moon:


I was lucky enough draft SAMPSON, NIQUE AND STOCKTON in THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS which directly led to TWO CHAMPIONSHIPS which almost every other gm in this league WOULD KILL FOR...


...but woe is me :P


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: BlazersGM on May 22, 2008, 01:27:09 PM
fuck fuck, ive missed the FA day 1 'cause of stupid storm, and all the good stuff signed already. :'(


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 02:26:43 PM
Oh boo hoo hoo  :moon:


I was lucky enough draft SAMPSON, NIQUE AND STOCKTON in THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS which directly led to TWO CHAMPIONSHIPS which almost every other gm in this league WOULD KILL FOR...


...but woe is me :P

Seriously? I lost the freaking MVP. I don't think I'm wallowing relative to the loss here. Just because I won a championship doesn't mean it can't suck to watch several more slip away because of FBB retardedness.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 22, 2008, 02:33:51 PM
retardness? Dude...it was equally retarded that you got the 1st overall pick twice in a row. FBB is a tough mistress, and karma rules this game, just like real life.

MVPs have left in the realy NBA too...Maybe Stockton wanted to be "the guy". Tracy and Vince had a great thing going back in the day with the Raps, but Tracy left so he could be "the guy". Shaq and Kobe had a great thing going, but Kobe drove Shaq away so he could be "the guy". Isn't it retarded that Shaq and Kobe didn't stay together and win another 5 Champs?

Anyone with as much experience as you or I should be very much aware that FBB does things like this, and not at all infrequently.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 03:07:45 PM
retardness? Dude...it was equally retarded that you got the 1st overall pick twice in a row. FBB is a tough mistress, and karma rules this game, just like real life.

MVPs have left in the realy NBA too...Maybe Stockton wanted to be "the guy". Tracy and Vince had a great thing going back in the day with the Raps, but Tracy left so he could be "the guy". Shaq and Kobe had a great thing going, but Kobe drove Shaq away so he could be "the guy". Isn't it retarded that Shaq and Kobe didn't stay together and win another 5 Champs?

Anyone with as much experience as you or I should be very much aware that FBB does things like this, and not at all infrequently.

I had the best odds to get those picks -- I don't see how that's retarded at all.

I can't name an instance in real life where a star left for a worse team for less money in free agency, where he would be a starter on either team, can you? It's unrealistic. Just because FBB does retarded things frequently doesn't justify its retardedness.

I'm sure if you lost an MVP, you'd complain too.
(and I don't even think I complained that much about it: "FA is undoubtedly the most flawed part of FBB. I offered the same number of years (6), a buttload more money, have a higher win rating, and have no PGs on my roster, and somehow Stockton signs elsewhere. FBB is completely unrealistic." I don't think that rises to an unwarranted level of complaining.)


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on May 22, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
Hopefully a certain "GOAT" does the same thing in DJSL...  :)


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 03:44:23 PM
haha, I'll just quit if that happens :)


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: SonicsGM on May 22, 2008, 04:54:56 PM
HornetsGM...

Why would you only offer 6 years to Stockton?  Hels the MVP and you shortchange him a year...maybe it's no wonder why he decided to go elsewhere.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: PacersGM on May 22, 2008, 05:25:16 PM
retardness? Dude...it was equally retarded that you got the 1st overall pick twice in a row. FBB is a tough mistress, and karma rules this game, just like real life.

MVPs have left in the realy NBA too...Maybe Stockton wanted to be "the guy". Tracy and Vince had a great thing going back in the day with the Raps, but Tracy left so he could be "the guy". Shaq and Kobe had a great thing going, but Kobe drove Shaq away so he could be "the guy". Isn't it retarded that Shaq and Kobe didn't stay together and win another 5 Champs?

Anyone with as much experience as you or I should be very much aware that FBB does things like this, and not at all infrequently.

I had the best odds to get those picks -- I don't see how that's retarded at all.

I can't name an instance in real life where a star left for a worse team for less money in free agency, where he would be a starter on either team, can you? It's unrealistic. Just because FBB does retarded things frequently doesn't justify its retardedness.

I'm sure if you lost an MVP, you'd complain too.
(and I don't even think I complained that much about it: "FA is undoubtedly the most flawed part of FBB. I offered the same number of years (6), a buttload more money, have a higher win rating, and have no PGs on my roster, and somehow Stockton signs elsewhere. FBB is completely unrealistic." I don't think that rises to an unwarranted level of complaining.)

well you remember the Joe Johnson scenario? he was offered similar money in ph?nix but wanted to be the guy and left for atlanta.
and if i am the best player on my team and don?t get 7 year max i might decide to go elsewhere too. do you think the jazz or hornets will give anything less than max money to deron or paul?
maybe FBB also takes care that there is no franchise team. in some leagues i had almost an unbeatable team and still i couldn?t manage to win more than 3 in a row. most times the ratings declined all of a sudden or i lost a good player for nothing in FA:


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: HornetsGM on May 22, 2008, 05:45:14 PM
I offered him 6 years to remove any variables -- at times the CPU takes less years for some reason, even when another team offers a higher amount. I didn't want a year difference to be the variable that screwed me over. I was the better offer on every level. 
I doubt that Stockton was "offended" that I didn't offer him 7 years.

There's obviously an element of "randomness" built into FBB for FA, which often makes this silly outcomes possible.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on May 22, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
Clipps got extremely lucky...  The only way they sign Stockton is if he signs before Green and Mitchell, and that is exactly what happens...  They hit the lotto on that one...

As long as all 3 sign on the same day, it doesn't matter what order they're in (as long as you have roster space for it), iirc.
Really? I had no idea about this - I thought the order mattered and tailored some of my offers on that account. Good to know.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: NetsGM on May 22, 2008, 05:49:38 PM
and that the Hornets dynasty took quite the hit  8)

Lucky you. You'd have no chance against me otherwise.
:moon:


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: Str8westcoasta on May 22, 2008, 05:51:59 PM
It's a shame I lost Fortson but I offered a realistic contract and he didn't accpet. I did only offer a 3 year deal which could have been the issue, it was for more money.

Very excited about Xavier Stockton, I have long been intrigued by the 7'4 guy with A- outside shot... I know he has never really performed but for the MLE I'll give him a shot

Jose Siegel and Stockton will sure up the 5 spot and now that Polynice is at the 4 with tarpley I have some good talent inside and 3 huys not yet in their prime (Stockton?)

Zack Profit is still out there and I need to make a decision on him... Oh the dilema!


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 22, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
 
Quote
I don't think that rises to an unwarranted level of complaining.)

I def didn't mean to insinuate there was an unwarrented amount of complaining. I was just commenting on what I know to be true in FBB, and I was just a little surprised that you seemed surprised and the unrealistic aspect of FBB...imo it's always been there, and I know you are a vet of a few leagues...I just feel like I've gotten used to it and it seemed almost like your original post implied that you hadn't.


Title: Re: FA day 1 done
Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on May 22, 2008, 11:46:30 PM
It's a shame I lost Fortson but I offered a realistic contract and he didn't accpet. I did only offer a 3 year deal which could have been the issue, it was for more money.

Very excited about Xavier Stockton, I have long been intrigued by the 7'4 guy with A- outside shot... I know he has never really performed but for the MLE I'll give him a shot

Jose Siegel and Stockton will sure up the 5 spot and now that Polynice is at the 4 with tarpley I have some good talent inside and 3 huys not yet in their prime (Stockton?)

Zack Profit is still out there and I need to make a decision on him... Oh the dilema!

I too would have been happy with Stockton...  He passed up my nearly $7 Mill 1 year deal for an MLE...  Maybe it has to do with the last name???