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I'd like to start an open discussion on what to do about upcoming draft files.  I didn't notice it until after the draft file was posted, but we're starting to duplicate players.  For example, Vlade Divac retired in 2007 already, and he's now a new draftee.  Gary Payton, Derrick Coleman, Kendall Gill and a bunch from the 1990 draft class retired in 2007 as well, and is set to be in the 2027 draft file.  As we get farther and farther, this is going to get more prominent.  Wondering how people think we should handle it.

Here's my opinion:
- I don't think we should duplicate players.  Gary Payton already played in this league.
- I would like to get some of the players who were already out of the league before we started (i.e. Larry Johnson) into the league.  We have a slight problem, as I don't have end of year rosters for 2005-2006, but a *little* overlap is acceptable IMO


Here's what I think we should do. 
I'd like to get the players who weren't in the league between '90 to around '95 to '96 into the league in the coming drafts.  Obviously, there's not enough for full drafts, so we'll have to combine them with other drafts.
I'd also like to get some of the people drafted post 2005 in the draft in the league.

Here's what I'm thinking.
2027 draft will be a combination of 1990/1991 (available players)
2028 draft will be a combination of 1992/1993 (available players

After that, we get to the point where so many of the players have already been in the league that we can't make a good draft class, so:
2029 draft will be the 2005 nba draft
2030 draft will be the 2006 nba draft
2031 draft will be the 2007 nba draft
2032 draft will be the 2008 nba draft.

Starting with 2033 we'll start doing the 1960 nba drafts, then in 2034 we'll catch up with the nba (we should have 1-2 more nba drafts by that time), then we'll do the 1970's.  That should provide us with draft classes up through ssba 2048 or so.  If we are still doing that at that time, we can then revisit the draft strategy.

well i don?t like the idea at all. the problem is that we will get a big drop off in talent if we exclude guys who played already here. normally that are the best guys who survived 10+seasons in the nba.
i think the 028 draft class will be pretty horrible without shaq, zo, webber, and at least 5 decent players more. the other draft classes should be decent imo.

we'll have to go through the draft classes and find out which players we have to exclude before really being able to judge the classes.  I'll try to do that shortly.

yes, we do have some overlapping players, but as long it's not the same player in the league, one 21 and one 38, it's no problem is guess. we're a FICTIONAL game after all and we mixed up things already by moving back in time, so i'd just move along with the draft as it is.

but i'm open for anything you come up with as well ...

That's a great idea, in my opinion. We avoid the repeat of players, which wouldn't be too much of a problem but I would prefer if we didn't. And as a bonus, we get to the recent drafts much quicker. That will make the league more current with players from the NBA now. Let's do it...

i dont like overlapping players...lets try to make it as real as possible... id dont like mixing 2 drafts classes also like 1987 with 1993 for example...id dont like to see kyle macy playing with shaq or somebody in the different era... combined draft file 1987 with 1988 for example..id like bods idea

Personally I am in complete agreement with everything in Bods' first post. I believe that is an excellent plan for the future of the draft.

I agree with this.  It gives us an organized plan for the next several drafts.  We will still know who to scout for rookie stats.

Although I do have the same concerns as Pacers with the drop-off in talent, I still think it's a good idea to combine the drafts and have some of the more recent 1s come after that. But, the question is what happens after that? But who cares, thats in a yr or two.

actually, thinking of it, i do believe the idea of using no duplicate players has a nice vibe. And after Biedrins went out last season, once Dwight retires we will have a "clean" age structure as well. It's the last mohican from the original league file.

you know dwight will never retire  :bounce:

i know, technically he's still playing ... but I have a hard time identifying DWIGHT anymore.
:lol2:

I like this idea cause soon enough we will get to the more recent players which iam looking forward 2.

i actually like bods' proposed idea for the coming drafts

Here are the eligible guys for both drafts (1990/1991 and 1992/1993).  IMO we have enough good players (particularly in 1992/1993) to have viable draft classes:
1990:
Mohmoud Abdul-Rauf
Dennis Scott
Felton Spencer
lionel simmons
bo kimble
willie burton
rumeal robinson
tyrone hill
alec kessler
loy vaught
travis mays
dave jamerson
terry mills
duane causwell
dee brown
gerald glass
jayson williams
tate george
anthony bonner
dwayne schintzius
alaa abdelnaby
lance blanks
toni kukoc
AJ English
jud buechler
bimbo coles
Antonio Davis
Cedric Ceballos

1991:
Larry Johnson
Kenny Anderson
Billy Owens
Doug Smith
Luc Longley
Mark Macon
Stacey Augmon
Bison Dele
Terrell Brandon
Greg Anthony
Rich King
Anthony Avent
Chris Gatling
Victor Alexander
Kevin Brooks
LaBradford Smith
John Turner
Eric Murdock
LeRon Ellis
Stanley Roberts
Rick Fox
Mark Randall
Pete Chilcutt

1992:
Christian Laettner
LaPhonso Ellis
Tom Gugliotta
Walt Williams
Todd Day
Clarence Weatherspoon
Harold Miner
Bryant Stith
Malik Sealy
Anthony Peeler
Randy Woods
Tracy Murray
Don MacLean
Hubert Davis
Jon Barry
Lee Mayberry
Latrell Sprewell
Elmore Spencer
Dave Johnson
Byron Houston
PJ Brown
Matt Geiger

1993:
Anfernee Hardaway
Jamal Mashburn
isaiah rider
calbert cheaney
bobby hurley
vin baker
George Lynch
Terry Dehere
Scott Haskin
Doug Edwards
Rex Walters
Greg Graham
Luther Wright
Acie Earl
Scott Burrell
James Robinson
Chris Mills
Ervin Johnson
Geert Hammink
Malcolm Mackey
Nick Van Exel
Byron Russell

Larry Johnson one year, Jamal Mashburn, Anfernee Hardaway, Clarence Weatherspoon and Vin Baker the next.  Remember, we're basing these off of their rookie years.  The fact that Mashburn and Penny had huge injury issues (and Vin Baker other issues) doesn't effect tehir level of prospect.

Bods' idea sounds good.

hill didn't make it too

I agree, Grant Hill should be there as he was not originally in the league...

If you exclude a player that was a top tier guy, couldn't you just add one in under a different name?  Not sure if that's even possible, but, like the other guys mentioned I am leery of hurting the top talent in this year's draft.  Why?  I have the 2nd worst record in the league and therefore I will have a top 5 pick.  So, if you go about removing the best players in the game you hurt my ability to rebuild.  And with the boatload of crap that's on my team, I'm really counting on there being a franchise player available for me.

To me, maybe not to you, that is far more important than if a guy shares a name with a player that used to be in the league.  So, my proposal is to change the names of the players if you must, but, leave the stats alone.

Not that is has anything to do with this thread or anything else for that matter, but is this the best CPU generated rookie you guys have ever seen...?

http://rosters.ssbabasketball.com/players/player300.htm


A-/A- to start? wow

Down to:

Inside Scoring:         C-
Outside Scoring:       C-
Handling:       C+
Defense:       C+
Rebounding:       C-
Potential:       C

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