SSBA

2006    184    Nuggets    Sign PG Andre Miller for $7,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Rockets    Sign SG Donta Smith for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Hornets    Sign C Jake Tsakalidis for $17,972,163 over 3 years.
2006    184    Spurs    Sign SG Kerry Kittles for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Nets    Sign PG Leandro Barbosa for $3,000,000 over one year.
2006    184    Grizzlies    Sign SF Eddie Jones for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Suns    Sign SF Glenn Robinson for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Nuggets    Sign SF Jim Jackson for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Supersonics    Sign C Zendon Hamilton for $1,549,784 over one year.
2006    184    Bulls    Sign PF Corie Blount for $1,200,000 over one year.
2006    184    Knicks    Sign PF Stanislav Medvedenko for $4,500,000 over one year.
2006    184    Suns    Sign PG Lindsey Hunter for $1,000,000 over one year.
2006    184    Grizzlies    Sign PF Samaki Walker for $965,850 over one year.
2006    184    Suns    Sign PF Jerome Moiso for $1,200,000 over one year.
2006    184    Nets    Sign SG Lucious Harris for $5,000,000 over one year.
2006    184    Nets    Sign PF Brian Scalabrine for $6,000,000 over one year.
2006    184    Timberwolves    Sign PF Walter McCarty for $965,850 over one year.

Nice.  Expiring contract central :)

And Barbosa will be a nice pg off the bench, something I really needed.

'Dre Miller took a BIG paycut to stay with his team from what other people were offering.

Shit. This sucks. I didn't think the Nuggets were going after Miller. Now I lost out any other good FA's like Kittles and Eddie Jones because I was just trying to sign Miller.

WOW...  Thank you Jake Tsakalidis...  I offered 1 extra year and more money...  What a loyal guy he is...  Can't believe that, especially since that greed rating is quite high...

you offered more money, but I believe through 3 years teh hornets offer was higher.

Got another big guy in Zendon Hamilton (needed a guy named Z since Ilgauskas left) but I am still weak at PF.

Hopefully the guy I am targeting will take my MLE

My offer for the first 3 years would have been: $18,221,760 + an extra year...

2006 184 Hornets Sign C Jake Tsakalidis for $17,972,163 over 3 years.

Hm...Play for Winner maybe?

Hornets did have, what, 52 wins?

I guess it could be...  Hornets have a 56 win rating, I have a 46...  Not a very big difference...  I'm just really confused and not too happy about it...  I was kinda depending on re-signing him...  I have no Center behind Ferry...  It's a good thing Thomas and Murphy can play C...

That's the risk you take with free agency.

I'm happy with Blount, I think he was a great LLE pickup.  

I'm really liking my team now, I got depth at every position with solid starters.  Next years free agency/offseason will be huge for me in terms of becoming a dynasty or not.

Well, I got my replacement for Tsakalidis...  but i had to pay a pretty high price...

:lol:  Raptors didn't get who they wanted again

Yeah, both Jones and Kittles spurn me, take the same money, with worse teams. Frankly, thats bullshit.

wah wah wah.

Big baby.

maybe they wanted to start?

I wanted Blount, but Zendon picked up the 1.56 offer.  I offered Blount more, but Z took it before Blount could have.  Rats.

Maybe they were insulted that you offered the MLE to two different players at the same position at the same time.   :P

Should have targeted just one.

I'm sure they don't get to see my other bids.

And yeah, they must have wanted to start.

Stupid players with 23 and 2 play for winner ratings.

Anyway, I'm screwed.

You're screwed? Right now it looks like Eddie Crotty will be my starting PG.

Haha, some things never change.  Cavs are synonomous with bad pg's.

You had Schenk...but he never played a game ;)

Poor you... Only Vince and Finley to play the swingman positons..

Hey maybe you can trade for Mo Pete???   :P

I agreed, I was going after Kittle too. :evil:

It sounds like starting posiitons defintely have an affect on who a free agent signs with...  Good to know for the future...

Parker, Kittles, and Ginobli is decent group...

Yeah, ok, you're right, maybe i'm not THAT screwed. But I was hoping to win 70 game, now it will just be 65.

49 wins to 70 wins is a big jump.  Don't get your hope too high.

Well it's not so bad. Crotty has excellent defense and it's not like he will have to score much.

Ostertag to Boozer is a big jump

Daniels to Cassell is a big jump

Keon Clark to Ostertag is a big jump

Milt Palacio to Lorenzen Ellis is a big jump

You won't win 60 games, let alone 70.

70 win teams can play defense.

So can my team. Just wait.

Personally, I think you overvalue your own club.  You should be happy with 50 wins this year.

Gee, ya think?

And Cassell isn't a big upgrade over Daniels.

It's kind of ironic...
Nets, with 2 scoring options, Cassel would be a perfect 3rd option on your team.  But you have Daniels...  

Raps, on the other hand, with Boozer, Finley, and Carter, need a pure distributor. Someone's offense is probably going to be heavily underused... Daniels would be fine as that distributor...

:)

I love you guys. I love seeing you get flustered over the size of my giant man-team.

50 wins? Come on. I won 50 last year.

Cassell is a perfect distrubtor...9.9apg last year on a less talented team.

I have got to be the favorite this year.

And now it's all about Day 5. This could be the 2nd year in a row that no one takes my MLE.

I bet it has to do with location too. No one signs with the Raptors in the real NBA either.

Over your team?  No.  Your giant ego?  Sure ;)

you'll win 50.  You won't win 60.

You and I won't be separated by more than 3 games.

Heat are still the favorite, in my opinion.
Only two players in the league that can stand toe to toe with Shaq...  And  you do not have Duncan or Yao...  Tanner is probably close.

Rockets and Mavericks will likely duke it out in the West...

I'll settle for 55. I'd be happy with that. You don't have the depth to hang with me though. I have 7 starters on my team, and I'm looking to add another.

But yes, I do have a large ego. That's why I put in the time. I talk, and my team will back me up :)

If someone is actually offended, I would stop right away. I'm just poking some fun with the other top-tier teams.

And make up your mind.

I HOPE I can prove you wrong. If I don't win it this year, I will more than likely blow up my team and look towards FA.

Esch, williams, murray and barbosa are comparable to your bench.  you don't have anyone to play defense on your team outside of your 2 centers.

we shall see.

With Vince in his prime you blow it up again?
You have Ellis, Vince, and Boozer, with Mihm a pretty decent center.  That is a nice core...

I have a young core, and I am pretty sure (fingers crossed) that I will be in the top 5 in the West, but I am not expecting to win the Finals, or even the conference...  But I know my team will be in it's prime when Shaq rides off into the sunset...   :D

Yup :)

Hopefully Emeka and Pettit will be just done improving by the time shaq hits 35 and gets his wheelchair.

That's what FA has been all about. There are still some decent ones left. Vince plays excellent defense.

C Mihm (A-) vs. Sammy (A) ....you by 1.

PF Boozer (B+) vs. Okafor (A-)....you by 1.

SF Finley (B) vs. Battier (A)...you by 3.

SG Vince (B+) vs. Petit (B)....me by 1.

PG Cassell (B) vs. Daniels (B)....toss up.

So you have me by only 4 ratings. For starters.

Let's look at offensive ratings.

C Mihm (B-,C-) vs. Sammy (C+,D+)...me by 2.

PF Boozer (B+,C-) vs. Okafor (A-,D)...even.

SF Finley (B-,A-) vs. Battier (C,B)....me by 3.

SG Vince (B+,A-) vs. Petit (B,B+)...me by 3.

PG Cassell (C+,A-) vs. Daniels (C,B)....me by 3.

That's me by 11.

Why don't you wait for training camp to do that comparison...  
Because things are going to change....  Watch out for Pettit...  And who knows, maybe Boozer gets better, too...

But Emeka is better then Boozer, no matter how you spin it...

And I'll have a whole team of 24-26 year olds just coming off of their rookie contracts.   8)

Look, the Raptors and Nets will be good, but will finish (as the teams are set at now) as the 4th and 5th place teams in the East.

Here are my predictions.

1. Heat
2. Wizards
3. Pacers
4. Raptors
5. Nets
6. Cavaliers
7. Pistons
8. Hornets
9. Bulls (just out of the playoffs)

That would match you two talkers in the first round of the playoffs.  Then you two can jab all you want at each other!

Raptors, you're missing the point.

you don't need 5 guys who are great scorers.  You DO need 5 guys who can play good defense.

5 guys aren't going to score 20 ppg.  You can have your +11 offense, IMO my +4 defense is just as significant.

And yes, I think I have more room for improvement this tc than you.

I agree with the heat.  I don't agree with the wizards or pacers being better than us.

1) Heat
2) Raptors
3) Nets
4) Wizards
5) Hornets
6) Pacers
7) Pistons
8) Bulls
9) Cavs (just have a couple of holes to fill and they can jump all the way up to 4)

Wiz...Amare, Sheed and Arenas push them to the top...that's three All-Star quality players and a bunch of good role players (Etan Thomas, Fortson, Szerbiak)

Pacers....JOneal, Artest, Tinsley and Mutombo make four very very good starters.  Good defensive club.

Nets need depth, and will struggle a little if anybody gets into foul trouble.
Raps need defense and depth at the SG and SF positions.

Sonics got me at 9  :evil:  :wink:

My goal is the 6th spot, I think thats reasonable.  I'm going to have a tight rotation, theres not going to be much drop off from my starters to my bench players.

don't sleep on Tanner......nah I don't think I'm in the playoffs but I'm definitely 2 or 3 pieces and 2 training camps away from being a playoff contender...

The heat are the only team that stand a chance to top myself and the Nets. The ONLY chance. And once I get my signing of MLE tonight, I'll have depth and defense at the 2/3.

I'm going to score a ton of points, and play solid D too. Last year I had about the same team defence wise, and was in the upper half in defense.

The Wiz have Sheed and Amare, but calling Arenas an asset is a strech.

Bottom line- I have 3 all-stars on my team.

Last year I was 3rd in the East. There is no chance I don't improve on that.

i think his (arenas) turnovers are way too high to be called an allstar

Good one. Almost thought you were serious there for a sec...

 8)

It's fine with me, we'll let the season speak for itself.

haha...he's (raptorsGM) becoming like the one he critizes the most. he was bashin me for speakin "the kings are the best", "i have the best team" etc and look at him now. "no one has a chance against me", there's a starting five under his post...man...we're the same bro!  :)

Hmm. Tayshaun Prince and Eddie Crotty are going to lead you to a title? C'mon. You're two positions away from being called elite.

God I wish I could just do the first sim tonight....haha.

I'm sick of the offseason.  And I changed 4 of 5 starters!

Can't imagine how boring next year will be when I'm only look to add depth (with maybe changing 1 starter)

Yeah, but he discusses why his team will win, that's the difference.

This is called a debate.  What you do is pure trash talking.

That's all we're asking you to do.  Actually talk about SSBA, not make one liners.

I know how you feel. I made my trades for Boozer and Cassell before the draft. Since then, I've only waited to add 2-3 role players. And even they won't sign with me.

It's the worst part of FBB, which is a great program. But the offseason takes longer than the damn season itself.

:) I have the team to back it up. I'm not changing Sam Cassell to Sg..:)

how many times do i have to tell you that my lack of english language knowledge prevents me to be part of some serious, deep discoussion???

I honestly dont think you have a lack of english skills. i don't think its a good excuse.

Yeah, you understand basketball lingo enough.

as for the offseason, I just don't see any way to speed it up.  It's long, but it's also generally the busiest time, player movement wise.  I'm afraid speeding up will lessen the quality of work people can do.

you don't understand. it would take 10 - 20, or even more minutes for me to seriously analize some trades, teams, picks etc. i have to watch on grammar, then there is always some word that i don't know how to spell or to write and alot of other problems that occurs during the translation. and than i, off course, lose my nerves and finaly decide (sadly) to just type some easy kind of trash talk or provocation. but as i said, i won't do that again anymore. except off course, someone (like you maybe?) start to push me...

btw that "sam cassell to 2" stuff of your was stupid, you know i didn't mean to move  bibby to 2. but alright...i have you on radar from this point on :wink:

Kings - if you wrote like that ^ all the time, no one would complain.

Nets - you're right, there is no way to speed it up. There is a long offseason in the NBA too. It just makes us even more ready for the start. :)

BTW, Nets, are you planning to start simming@ 9 or have it up at 9?

have it up at 9

I'm actually beginning to enter all the bids now, that way about 8:50 I'll sim, then upload.

I'm thinking I can shave off 2 days by making people have the extension decisions due by the last sim of the playoffs.  Then shave off 3 days in the draft (rather than doing 5 picks per day in the first round, do five picks one day, 5 picks the next day, then 10 picks the third, 10 the fourth.  trading drops bigtime after the first 10 picks).  Then shortening the 2nd round into 2 days rather than 3.  

The draft sheets actually turned out much better than I anticipated.  So did the extension decisions (twan and jem both sent them out after the playoffs.  I sent them out before the playoffs).

That can shave 5 days off of our offseason, which cuts it down by a 3rd, and means we should be able to knock it out in 11-13 days.

Anymore than that I think would be severely rushed.

Actually, I think that would work awesome. There would still be "empty" space to trade in.

And ok, 9 pm, I'm going to hope like hell I can be here in case I need to sign someone fast.

Z, Martin, and James(after training camp) are the cream of the crop at each of their respective positions. They more then make up for it. Prince and Crotty are both adequate, with great defense. And with a couple signings tonight, hopefully, my depth will be solid as well. I'm looking forward to a very good season for the Cavs.

Good luck. Z KMart and James are comparable 5,4,and 2's to many other teams.

But Prince and Crotty are not comparable.

The free agent section is updated. I was here so i could sign quickly, but there is no-one left worth it.

Prince was the starting SG on the Western Conference champs.  His defense, size and outside shot are well worth starter's material.